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How to monitoring the safety signals between robot and PLC?

  • ChristianLiinHansen
  • May 5, 2022 at 11:36 AM
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    • May 5, 2022 at 11:36 AM
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    Hi all.

    So I am following the guide for setting up KUKA.SafeOperation. I am using ProfiSafe between PLC and robot and therefore I found out, that the PLC needs to set the safety bit. However, the PLC guys tells me that now the PLC is uploaded so they set this bit high, but how can I see it from the Teach-pendant?

    Normally I can go in "Display" --> "Inputs/outputs"--> "Digital inputs", but that do not show me any safety related signals, or does it?
    Also, I heard from KUKA, that I should not I/O map my safety signals, so in this case, I am a bit lost in how to actually see the safety signals. I.e. did the PLC guys set the right address HIGH or LOW? How to see this from WorkVisual or just the TP?

    Thanks in advance :smiling_face:

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    My current system contains the following information:

    • Robot: KUKA KR50 R2100
    • Controller: KR C5 dualcabinet
    • KSS 8.7.2 HF3
    • HMI version: 8.7 B394
    • Kernel system version: KS V8.7.53394
    • WorkVisual V6.0.24_Build1632
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    • May 5, 2022 at 12:04 PM
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    Well you could see it indirectly. Those inputs only become relevent when they are used inside the safe configuration. If so there are some (non-safe) built-in signal variables that you can look at e.g. $SR_RANGE_ACTIVE[16], $SR_ACTIVETOOL, $SR_SAFEOPSTOP_ACTIVE[7], ... . I am not totally sure but I think those are listed in the safe operation manual.

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    • May 5, 2022 at 12:23 PM
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    There should be a menu point under 'diagnosis'. Don't know the correct English term.

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    So I went "Diagnosis " --> "Safety interface" and found the safety signals. Thanks :smiling_face:

    Now I can go back to the PLC programmers and tell them, that I dont get any TRUE signals on WZ1

    My current system contains the following information:

    • Robot: KUKA KR50 R2100
    • Controller: KR C5 dualcabinet
    • KSS 8.7.2 HF3
    • HMI version: 8.7 B394
    • Kernel system version: KS V8.7.53394
    • WorkVisual V6.0.24_Build1632
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    • May 5, 2022 at 1:38 PM
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    Hi all...

    But actually, when looking into the KSS_87_SI.pdf manual, there was no further explanation about what "Status" vs "Values" mean.

    E.g. the signal "Operator safety (BS) is value = 1 (TRUE), but status is "not active"?

    Anyone that can guide me to the place in the manual, where this is described or simply just explain what the difference are? :smiling_face: THanks in advance

    My current system contains the following information:

    • Robot: KUKA KR50 R2100
    • Controller: KR C5 dualcabinet
    • KSS 8.7.2 HF3
    • HMI version: 8.7 B394
    • Kernel system version: KS V8.7.53394
    • WorkVisual V6.0.24_Build1632
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    • May 5, 2022 at 6:06 PM
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    What is there to elaborate? both show the same thing but in a different form.

    Those are safety signals and that means for most of them that TRUE (or 1) indicates good or normal operating state. Tripped state is FALSE (or 0).

    the Status shows corresponding info or exclamation point if there is a problem (cross-channel fault etc.)

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

  • SkyeFire May 5, 2022 at 8:08 PM

    Moved the thread from forum Manuals, Software and Tools for KUKA Robots to forum KUKA Robot Forum.

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