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External Start DX200 doesn't work!

  • nhochamcuoi
  • April 17, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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    • April 17, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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    Hi guys, here's my problem: I set permit for External Start in Management Mode, set Prohibit for Reserved Start (As manual say). After that I change to Play Mode, set Servo ON, press Start on Teach Pendant for testing (everything work fine!). But when I change to Remote Mode (Servo On still on), and Input for External Start, it doesn't work (#20010 Input still change to Active).
    I got a message say: "Operations is prohibited by external device" (just mess, not alarm or error).
    Someone please help me solve this problem!

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    • April 17, 2018 at 6:29 PM
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    Ext start is a rising edge signal that needs to occur after servos are on. In other words if you ON ext servo on AND turn ON ext start together it won't work. Need to turn ON ext servo on, wait for servo ON input, then turn ON ext start.

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    • April 17, 2018 at 7:07 PM
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    Ext start is a rising edge signal that needs to occur after servos are on. In other words if you ON ext servo on AND turn ON ext start together it won't work. Need to turn ON ext servo on, wait for servo ON input, then turn ON ext start.


    What you mean when saying Servo On input. I just see Servo ON output in Universal I/O board...
    Sorry about my knowledge about Yaskawa

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    • April 18, 2018 at 9:16 AM
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    hi ,

    in your ladder part you need to have :

    input network :
    ||---------------------------------()
    #200XX #40045 ext servo on robot systeme
    input robot
    output from plc

    output network :
    ||---------------------------------()
    #50073 #300XX
    Robot systeme servo on robot ouput
    input plc

    i hope that will help you

    Edited once, last by MIKL9Z (April 18, 2018 at 9:24 AM).

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    • April 18, 2018 at 1:16 PM
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    hi ,

    in your ladder part you need to have :

    input network :
    ||---------------------------------()
    #200XX #40045 ext servo on robot systeme
    input robot
    output from plc

    output network :
    ||---------------------------------()
    #50073 #300XX
    Robot systeme servo on robot ouput
    input plc

    i hope that will help you

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    I dont use any PLC, I just wire that external start o put with a button. And I want to press that button for robot run.

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    • April 18, 2018 at 5:56 PM
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    In this cases I use a standart button connected to external input and declare it in reservation start program. In this case I have a 2 buttons for 2 stations, but You need to have and stop or Hold buttons and external Emergency stop button connected to machine safety board. If You not use a external PLC not need to set to REMOTE MODE - USE a PLAY MODE with reservation start.

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    • April 20, 2018 at 11:12 AM
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    Problem Solved: Turn off Pseudo Input #82014 (INHIBIT IO), It prevents External Start.

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    • June 28, 2023 at 3:27 PM
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    Problem Solved: Turn off Pseudo Input #82014 (INHIBIT IO), It prevents External Start.


    How?

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    • September 6, 2024 at 2:20 PM
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    Hi everyone, I need help with remote start stop and job selection.

    I have a DX200, I searched in the operators manual and found the different variables in S2C that allow me to enable and disable different things for remote drive ON ecc.

    but where do I map my universal output with the different actions, like drive ON, START, STOP ecc

    I have searched and searched and found nothing, please give me a hint.

    thanks in advance

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    • September 6, 2024 at 3:35 PM
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    Quote from ToccoEnorme

    Hi everyone, I need help with remote start stop and job selection.

    but where do I map my universal output with the different actions, like drive ON, START, STOP ecc

    Are you wanting to hardwire push buttons for external servo on and external start? If so, look at the electrical prints for your application for the correct CN address and the MXT (YFC) card.


    If through a network, then that’s the concurrent IO ladder.

    I know a thing or two, because I’ve seen a thing or two. Don't even ask about a third thing. I won't know it.

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    • September 16, 2024 at 2:41 PM
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    Quote from 95devils

    Are you wanting to hardwire push buttons for external servo on and external start? If so, look at the electrical prints for your application for the correct CN address and the MXT (YFC) card.


    If through a network, then that’s the concurrent IO ladder.

    Thank you Devils!

    Actually I want to start the robot from plc.

    ok so Ladder is a must if that´s trhough network?

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    • September 16, 2024 at 3:01 PM
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    I need help finding the right ladder manual for dx200, I found one but is for mp2000 series.

    I cannot find any on yaskawa website, If you could share a link would be very appreciated

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    The manuals would be at http://www.motoman.com

    I know a thing or two, because I’ve seen a thing or two. Don't even ask about a third thing. I won't know it.

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    Or here.

    http://assets.efc.gwu.edu/yaskawa-motoman/165294-1CD.pdf

    I know a thing or two, because I’ve seen a thing or two. Don't even ask about a third thing. I won't know it.

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    • September 17, 2024 at 8:47 AM
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    The manuals would be at http://www.motoman.com

    All right, now I have a manual that is called Ladder Editor for DX200, in the document it shows how to edit the ladder program, the problem is that I don´t have a Ladder view of the ladder program in my controller. The only thing I have is the mnemonic code of the ladder program.

    In the document I found it says that it is possible to edit in mnemonic code, it just doesn´t explain how and I can´t find other document specific for the mnemonic code.

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    http://assets.efc.gwu.edu/yaskawa-motoman/165294-1CD.pdf

    Not sure what manual you grabbed. This has in section 14 how to edit.

    I know a thing or two, because I’ve seen a thing or two. Don't even ask about a third thing. I won't know it.

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    • September 18, 2024 at 8:50 AM
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    Not sure what manual you grabbed. This has in section 14 how to edit.

    My problem was that I did´t have the ladder editor, I got help from yaskawa, they change the ALL.PRM and now I can edit in ladder.

    the manual you sendt is perfect, thank you!

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    My problem was that I did´t have the ladder editor, I got help from yaskawa, they change the ALL.PRM and now I can edit in ladder.

    the manual you sendt is perfect, thank you!

    You don’t need ladder editor to edit the ladder. It can be done through ladder program. Kick it old school. Ladder Editor is converting to mnemonics in the ladder program.

    I know a thing or two, because I’ve seen a thing or two. Don't even ask about a third thing. I won't know it.

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    • September 20, 2024 at 8:51 AM
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    You don’t need ladder editor to edit the ladder. It can be done through ladder program. Kick it old school. Ladder Editor is converting to mnemonics in the ladder program.

    I just couldn´t edit it in mnemonic, there was no option for editing.

    My yaskawa contact said that I had to use ladder editor....

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