Do you mean, it's connected directly to the KRC through the X42 connector?
AFAIK, that's only relevant when the MasRef switch is connected to a Safety PLC, and the Safety PLC program passes the MasRef contact signals to the KRC via the JR bit.
Yes - I understood the JR bit was only relevant to a PLC. Thanks for clearing that up.
Yes - the Reference Switch is connected directly to the KRC through the X42 to the CCU.
Then, how is the MasRef switch connected to the robot?
Through the CCU (CIB). But I see panic mode suggests monitoring the JR bit - I'll have a look at it.
I have tried using the diagnostic monitor see SafeOperation_1.bmp and SafeOperation_3.bmp but can't seem to get a real-time result when placing the steel piece over the proximity sensors.
Please note there is no SIB in this unit.
I also struggle sometimes with the German references in my notes.
Mastering reference switch does not connect to SIB. It connects to CCU, more specifically to CIB (CCU=CIB+PBM). so if there is a live status, it will be in diagnostic monitor for CIB and it will refer to JR.
Thanks. I know the reference switch doesn't connect to SIB - just mentioned that for background. I'll look at the JR bit. Thanks
That's possible. In diagnosis menu, and should do the task.
I have tried using the diagnostic monitor see SafeOperation_1.bmp and SafeOperation_3.bmp but can't seem to get a real-time result when placing the steel piece over the proximity sensors.
Please note there is no SIB in this unit.
I also struggle sometimes with the German references in my notes.
Hi Panic Mode and Skyefire,
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What are you trying to accomplish?
What I am trying to do is find a quick way to see the status of the proximity switch by simply placing a piece of steel over the proximity sensors and checking their status on the KRC4 Smart Pad.
Hi All,
Is there a direct way to monitor the status of the Proximity Switches (part of the KRC4 Safe Operation Reference Switch).without running the Safe Operation programs?
I am assuming the 2 proximity switches must be mapped somewhere to the internal Kuka I/O. I have searched on the TP and Work Visual with no luck.
We have Kuka KRC4 controllers with the option package Safe Operation 3.x installed.
Controllers are KRC4 8.3.x
There is only one Reference Switch connected through X42 to the CCU.
I have examined MasRef_Main.SRC, MasRef_User.SRC and can't seem to find an I/O reference for the 'proximity switch status'.
I see there is a Safe Operation $MASTERINGTEST_SWITCH_OK variable but that's just the condition of the Reference Switch and not the two individual proximity switches.
Any guidance would be most appreciated.
OK - so it looks like I can't interface the encoder directly with the Panasonic drive and that I need something in-between like a Kuka RDC?
These are the signals on the Kuka encoder
Stator Excitation
pin 7 R2
pin 10 R1
Stator (SIN)
pin 1 S2
pin 2 S4
Stator (COS)
pin 11 S1
pin 12 S3
RTD (Temperature)
pin 8 +1R1
pin 9 -1R2
The Panasonic drive only has these encoder inputs on a 6pin connector;
pin 1 E5V
pin 2 E0V
pin 5 PS
pin 6 PS(NOT)
pin 3/4 not to be connected.
Any suggestions?
So where I am struggling with this particular motor is to work out what I need to connect.
I've managed to get some info on the 1FK7080 motor but not the 1FK7081. At this stage I can't locate a specific wiring diagrams for the encoder side.
The encoder connector is a 12 pin and has the following signals;
R1 - pin 10
R2 - pin 7
S1 - pin 11
S2 - pin 1
S3 - pin 12
S4 - pin 2
+1R1 - pin 8
-1R2 - pin 9
There are no connections on Pin 3,4,5 & 6.
I would love to know how to wire this up and what these signals mean.
I'm assuming the excitation is 24V but need to know whether the feedback will mate with the Panasonic PS and PS(NOT) inputs.
I'm trying to work out a wiring configuration of the servo on a test bench so that I can get feedback to the Panasonic drive. It's really for test purposes and the only spare motors I have are the Kuka ones.
Thank you #panic mode and #m.dinio.
I have attached the Kuka label to help. Sorry about that.
Kind regards
Dear Forum,
I have a KUKA Motor (Siemens 1FK7081-5AZ91-1ZZ9-Z) which I want to test with a Panasonic Drive (MDBLN25SG) and interface the drive to a MASSO G3 controller.
I'm trying to mate the Encoder connections of the KUKA Motor to the Panasonic drive.
Siemens motor encoder has these 12pin connections - no clue what these mean.
pin1-S2, pin2-S4, pin7-R2, pin8-+1R1, pin9-1R2, pin10-R1, Pin11-S1, pin12-S3
Panasonic drive encoder has these connections - these are easy.
pin1-E5V, pin2-E0V, pin5-PS, pin6-PS(not)
The Panasonic documentation is very good but I can't for the life of me find any reference of what the Kuka/Siemens motor signals mean.
I need to connect these two units together.
Please can someone enlighten me.
Many thanks
Thank you very much Hermann. Much appreciated. Not even the people at Kuka knew
Thank you very much Panic Mode. Much appreciated. Not even the people at Kuka knew.
Can anyone shed some light on what the IBN abbreviation translates to on the KRC4 Start Up orange flashing Indicator on the SmartPad?
I am delivering some KUKA training and this question was asked yet I cannot find an expanded version of IBN in any of the material?
Thanks Panic Mode,
I got a bit distracted and now having revisited this topic I see that KSS 5.4.11 does not use the Authentication.config file and that - in essence - while I can add an operator with lower than user privileges there are many places where the 'user' account = 'default' and cannot 'go lower'. Even when using the KRC Configurator there were limitations. Anyhow I have found a work around for the customer so all is good. Thanks Everyone.
I searched for a solution to lock softkey for Minimize and Exit buttons in SoftKeyKUKA.ini, like for example you can lock Delete,Duplicate, add new menu and menu items to HMI,even change name of a button, but couldn't find where this buttons are defined in the file... Other solutions where already mentioned from other members in previous posts... I guess this "function" is intended for the service guys...
You can also write to KUKA about this, maybe they will rewrite the HMI for your case 😁🤞... or try to get KUKA.NOADMIN like FUBINI proposed...
Oh - what I was after in the link I mentioned is the 'lease time' to lock out a user or to go to default user. I started a new thread to not confuse with this 'minimise' issue. Apparently changes can be set in Authenticate.config but there is no change when I amend this file.
I searched for a solution to lock softkey for Minimize and Exit buttons in SoftKeyKUKA.ini, like for example you can lock Delete,Duplicate, add new menu and menu items to HMI,even change name of a button, but couldn't find where this buttons are defined in the file... Other solutions where already mentioned from other members in previous posts... I guess this "function" is intended for the service guys...
You can also write to KUKA about this, maybe they will rewrite the HMI for your case 😁🤞... or try to get KUKA.NOADMIN like FUBINI proposed...
Thanks for all your effort . I'll just live with this for now and see if I can monitor activity in a log somewhere. I'll give Kuka a buzz as well - you never know.
Yes i managed to get also message, but you have to really click on status bar... I was clicking everywhere else... With double click on status bar it got minimized right away... I guess this is function programmed in HMI, when mouse is connected... It is the first time i see this 😁. It never happened even working with VNC, but i guess i never was clicking right on status bar because there are no buttons to be clicked... 🙂 The same thing on Win95 KSS v4.1.7 SP08 just tested it simulator...
Any views on this thread?
Hello, i have tested on KRC2ed05 with plugged USB keyboard and mouse...I clicked, pressed everywhere on the screen and I couldn't get to Windows side, until i logged in the higher user level... So like i said before, someone already made or played with some settings in the windows... Reinstalling also the Windows and KSS later should fix this...
Thanks. I think that is the case. I have attached a pic showing the popup.
This option pops up when I click on the status bare near the bottom of the Kuka HMI screen.
Hi,
I have a client KRC2 ed05 running KSS 5.4.11. I have re-installed the KSS from the D:ISO to what I believe are the default settings.
For some reason the LeaseTime options that I have in the KRC/HMI/Config/Authentication.config file are not working.
It's as if the Authentication.config file is not being addressed.
Observation of tests:
I change the <CanLockSystem>false</CanLockSystem> to true (which should lock the screen after the Lease Time) and then try out the below and then change the <CanLockSystem>false</CanLockSystem> to false (which should allow the HMI to revert to the Default user after the Lease Time).
I do a cold start after each change.
If after each boot I login as Expert and wait the desired time (120 Seconds) there is no change if I change the mode switch on the teach pendant or if I wait more than 2 minutes (120S).
I have attached the Authentication.config file for reference.
Am I missing something.
What status bar? The Windows XP status bar? Or the KUKA HMI status bar?
Kuka HMI Status bar only.
The site has authorised personnel to access the cabinet. However it needs to remain unlocked as per client regs. They run 24x7.
It would be unusual for anyone other than an Expert to put a mouse into the unit - BUT I am trying to close off unnecessary access because a mouse can be inserted.
