the robot pet name project is open with a green check
Posts by dieselxj
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ok this is new. i closed WOV, and re-opened it to the very first page, connected the krc to the laptop and i got
Cell WINDOWS CC-PQ9LL
0-(172.17.-----
i assume the 172 is my laptops IP address.
but maybe not. I expanded that by hitting the + sign and i get the info from the robot with its previous owners pet name for it, and
1 base project
1 initial project
1 initial project 1. v1.0..0.0
and
a lab_rob xxxx
very exciting does this mean it is connected?
how do i piing
i saw something about using a command window ? is that like a terminal window
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i was hoping to use the auto detect feature on my computer and leave the KRC ip address alone
krc is on 192.168.1.20
subnet is 255.255.255.0
if i don't change the krc address , I don't need to reboot correct?
lets try and stick with changing the laptop
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thanks skyfire, let me work thru this for a second. Yes i do have a good copy of WOV 6.0, and i have been using the WOV 6.0 onboard help plus a WOV6.0 manual that DS linked for me yesterday
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OK lets get this thing connected. I believe i have all the hardware,
network cable is connected to service port X69
NOT connected to the laptop
windows 10 laptop is open and network internett is on proxy settings. auto detect is on,
use set up script is off and set up on the right is not highlighted
manual proxy set up is off
kuka work visual is on the initial start up page with 2 recent projects the one from last night i started is called air on off
the other is called project/ project 1. wvs
on the left i have
recent
create
open
browse
i opened the project 1.wvs. and plugged in the laptop and nothing happened. still can not see the field bus em89105-1001.
at least there were no explosions or smoke
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good morning DS, and panic mode. First let me say i am very glad to have the forums help with this. And i really do want and need to learn this , and other more automated industrial processes. I am almost at the end of my working career. I would like to stay relevant for a few more years before i retire. But automation and networking machines is not native to me.
I did find some video tutorials but they were not the correct ones and some not in _EN (english)
so thanks DS for the fresh link
Yes i did end up creating a new tester project in WOv with absolutely NO intent of even trying to install it or keep it for that matter. Just using it as a interface learner project. And so far i am glad i did, because i really am out of my depth on this WOV thing and even trying to create a network.
Yes i know what a IP address is, But i have still never worked with them or much less changed them.
Once bitten twice shy on automation. long story short, I had a heck of a time updating a TCP at work, because i dropped a comma a few months ago. So i am very cautious with this stuff.
I can create teach and use the pendant OK not great but ok, but WOV is a very new and so far extremely difficult thing to work with.
I feel i need a much more basic understanding of what is going on with the IO system,
for instance if i do get the mapping to work. what are the results? how can i tell the mapped item is the pneumatic solenoid and not something else?
also apologies panic mode, but i don't know how to copy a program from the pendant yet. that is why i was asking if i have the correct manuals . It is also not helping me that i only have about 1 day a week to work on this.
but thanks for all your help so far. I am going to try and work on making the controller to computer connection a bit more before i have to go to work. but i am not very confident there either.
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thread revival time.
There was a fair amount of outside interest with the same questions i had about the 3 phase power for this control. So here is the update.
I purchased a new new rpc from american rotary . I got a 5hp middle of the line model, not the fanciest. The robot seems to be working fine.
Interesting thing though. The new rpc has approx the same voltage spread across the legs as my home made rpc did , just at the high side of the voltage spec, where my home made rpc was operating at the lower end of the voltage spec.
also i re-connected the factory transformer to the system to hopefully bring down the highest voltage leg. It did not work.
But this robot has been sitting long enough that it either needed to work or go away. so trial by fire , and it seems to be ok. There is a big sticker on the xrc that reads 240 volts also gave me a bit of re-assurance.
Well on to todays question. the robot is working well enough to put into service. and i want to make a semi portable unit out of this. so basically a rolling table with the controller underneath as ballast and the robot on top.
The question is has anyone mounted a XRC controller NOT on vertical? I would like to mount the control on a side to control the stack height of this thing. So either door up on the bottom of the table with vent fans down. Or lay it on its side power supply input area facing down.
any one with experience on that?
Next i need to get the IO working on it. but it is still very slow going as i only have one day a week to work on all the projects
yaskawa tech support says should not be a problem to mount the xrc on its side. they really are a good bunch
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hi DS I have been working with WOV a bit, I am still not connected to the controller
i have managed to activate a controller, and i have field busses and KCB open in the mapping section. but i do not have EM8905-1001 I/O-Modul. available . Do i have to have the controller connected for the em8905-1001 module to show up?? i have "cabinet interface board small robot " under the field buss KCB tab
Panic thanks for your help as well i am looking into saving programs from controller to the WOV, but i have not found any success yet with the KSS_22_END_KRL_en manual, ( is this the correct manual for all KRL language) or the WOV manual . The pendant in the KSS_22 manual is a little different than mine. Is there a better controller language manual for the KRC4 compact controller? I have the KRC4 compact manual BA_KR_C4_compact En manual
I was thinking i need to copy or duplicate a program from the pendant while it is connected to the WOV is that correct?
I also imagine i have to have the programs collapsed in order to copy them NOT the individual SRC and DAT files correct?
also i have 2 repeating error messages on the pendant,
" boot failed for module: EIPIODriver " this expands to KSS14009 boot failed for module which talks about no braking reaction, and no interlock of motion commands . the indicated solution is to set a shorter time for but timeout of the adapter.
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every once in a while i get a low fan speed alarm.
thanks to both of you for your continued help. I feel like i am making very slow progress, but progress is being made. Are there any online KUKA training videos for this?
thanks
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i do have the wov 6.0 onboard help file, but is there a download for a manual?
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good afternoon, i am still working on my workvisual education. Can someone provide a hint or link where i can find a workvisual manual, i have downloaded several KRL manuals and the profinet manual, but i cant seem to find the manual for working thru workvisual 6.0
any help is appreciated,
I just cant bring myself to connect to robot with work visual yet, until i feel a little more comfortable with the program
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thanks panic mode. i will try and connect to the controller when i get back at the end of the week. i will have a usb to ethernet dongle then as well
thanks
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good morning DS, thanks. i have to go to work tonight for a week. but i will get the usb to ethernet adapter and be ready next weekend.
once i have mapped the valves and saved them i don't have to repeat for every program correct? For now it is just going to be ONE program , with 1 on off . = start spray move, valve on while moving, move move move, valve off while moving . move back to home . spray on and off while moving would be nice, but not a deal breaker.
i read last night that the valves should not be open with power off the system.
My system does have air flow with the power switched off. If the valves are on when power is off, could that confirm the valves are already mapped????? If so as i said i did see some green IO spots in the list around the 1000+ mark. i am thinking to try and disable those and see if it shuts off the air-.
Are the solenoids at all noisy if it is quiet can i hear them activate and de-activate???
thanks
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ok WoV 6 is installed, and i am out of my league i think is this what i am trying to do with the onboard pneumatics
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Field bus configuration
By the same principle, it is also possible to map inputs and outputs of the robot controller to each other. (In this case, the KR C I/Os tab must be used in both halves of the window.) "
i am not going to do this tonight, but is this in the ballpark
not in the ballpark i guess i will keep reading
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my internet is not supposed to be this slow.
So after I map and assign a io to the valve. Will the valves segregate? As I said now all the "B " ports are connected. And at the previous power up it was all the " a" ports were connected.
I assume there is a manifold inside the arm of some sort. And this is normal . But it would not be good to have a pneumatic valve be turned on at every power up
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why are the 3 " a " pneumatic ports on the Rm already open
Well that Is? This morning the 3 " a " ports were open. I shut the system down. I just restarted the krc4. And now the A ports are closed and all 3 of the " B " ports are open.
There are 3 valves correct? Do they work in pairs? A,b 1. A,b 2. A,b 3?
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My ignorance on this is pretty astounding
Thanks for your help DS
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just guessing here. but for this i will be disconnecting my computer from my internet/wifi. and i will be making a very small network with the krc4 and my computer only is that the idea?
i will need to get a new dongle? that connects from the LAN style connector to USB. my new is computer does not have a LAN connection
this will give me a bit of time to try and get more education.
does the WoV have a tutorial section?
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i am downloading workvisual 6.0.28 . this will take another hour
aside from entering a ip address of death. are there any other gotchas to watch out for
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i thought that the new versions of WoV are not backwards compatible??? that is why you have to pick the one for your software version??.