Sounds like a good painting regimen. Thank you both for your responses. TheFabricator whats your retrofit look like? What kinda drives etc.
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Hi so I bought 2 up-165s and 2 up-130s as a lot both up-130 systems are complete one of the up-165s has a wrecked cable set so I only have one working up-165. When I first was working with R1 of the up-165s it was working well until the R axis started to get collision errors when rotated with the B axis perpendicular to the forearm. R would get stuck perpendicular then I would have to release the R brake and set back in position with a crowbar. When I ran the arm with the wrist removed and spun R continuously with limits released the collision would not occur, thus I thought the issue was a bad wrist bearing or a chipped tooth or something. I rebuilt the wrist, no change. I tried something rash after that and thought maybe it was an encoder issue and I swapped the encoder (hoping that with yaskawa absolute encoders they didn’t require careful phasing) well bricked that robot in the process as R is now totally out of phase , NP though as I only have one UP-165 controller this robot is now just a parts bot. I swapped that robot with the other UP-165. Robot worked great after I swapped the S axis servo (got a defective absolute data error) from the newly christened Parts robot. Robot worked well, a little creaky as it needs new grease (probably been out of service for 5-10 years), THEN I started getting the same axis R error as well as a alarm 1415 excessive segment safety. Does this sound like a problem with the robot or the R axis amplifier?
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Hmmmm. I’m looking for an in between the correct way and just barely good enough. I do not have the time to personally rebuild a unit unless it really really needs it in order to keep functioning. I’ve rebuilt a Staubli TX-90 and a UP-6 without much trouble but I had difficulty rebuilding just a up-165 wrist because the damn thing weighs 150 lbs and I am terrified of those monsters weight compensator shocks. I can’t send it in for a repaint/rebuild because I simply can’t afford it. I bought these 2 up-130s and 2 up-165s and 4 controller less UP6s to save them from the torch for$3350 usd. Could I compromise and put Air craft Stripper all over their existing paint jobs, scrub it off and repaint at that point? At how many hours are these supposed to be rebuilt at? Is there a way to tell how many hours they have on them if they have all been initialized?
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Hello All,
I have two UP-130s and a UP-165 in my shop manufactured in 2002. They are mostly in pretty good shape but their paint is flaking and their cast steel frames are rusting. How does one go about repainting a robot? Can I just mask the zircs, connectors, labels, and witness Marks and go for it with a coat of rust primer then Satin Black Enamel? Is it ok to paint over servos and cabling?
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Very much agree with all that has been said, I would say buy an older big brand robot, I would recommend Yaskawa Motoman. I have 3 large material handling robots from them that I bought For scrap price from a junkyard and was able to easily get two of them working and soon enough the third will be running. The key to this was fantastic customer service from yaskawa despite me not buying these robots directly from them.If you were to buy a fanuc robot used, you would not be able to get support from the manufacturer without paying a licensing fee. A company called RobotWorx has 5 UP6 manipulators With XRC-2001 controllers for sale on EBay, Arms with controllers and pendants for $1500 usd a piece if you are in the US. If they aren’t working they’re easy to get working because the company is so helpful. Just an example for you. Used robots, if your looking in the right place are quite cheap.
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Sigh, seems to always be the case. Someone always "just" saw or put some S-420s in the dumpster, S-420 is a robot im a major fanboy about, despite never having seen one in person. I myself have some Yaskawa Motoman Up-130s and 165s but those are more akin to a Fanuc R-2000 id say. Shane100Irish Beautiful video, looks like you had alot of fun with that.
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Yeah, I’d expect most of them to have been shredded by now. I’ve always wanted one simply because it’s such a historically significant robot. Id almost be happy just to have one just to look at with an added bonus being maybe make it do something. Same with the unimate 2000 series, though I bet there are like ten of those left in the world. I kinda horde robots some working some not, you could say it’s a problem but I suppose there are worse problems, or at least that’s what I tell myself. I have two workings up-130s, one working up-165 one not working, five up-6s all but one work just no controllers, a working Fanuc p-50, non working p-150 and p-155, and two adept scara robots in pieces. You uploaded manuals for the irb-6 correct? Where can I find those now. I do love a good manual and might just have to be content with that.
Thanks,
Andrew
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Hi All,
I’ve always wanted an ASEA IRB-6 and I have had two opportunities to buy one and each time I have talked myself out of it and each time I have thoroughly regretted it. Does anyone vaguely near Dallas Texas know of a fixer upper they’d be willing to part with for a reasonable price?
Thanks,
Andrew
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So I forgot to do a backup on the up-165 before I initialized so I’m in hot water in that respect ..... if I put the original cpu and wrca back in the controller and loaded a backup from my working up-130 could I then reinitialize as a 165 and perhaps right my terrible wrong?
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Thank you. I was able to initialize the robot as a single by myself and the unit is now working.... in other news I tried to do the same with the up-165 and wound up with a 0400 parameter transmission error which I’m told means the parameters are now corrupted....I took the cpu from my extra up-130 and the wrca and put it in the up-165 and initialized it as a 165. This cleared the parameter transmission error but then gave me a servo communication error .... the robot is a single, has matching wrca and cpu as well as xsu and is initialized as a 165 but refuses to cooperate..... also I have an external holding error that won’t clear regardless of changed I/o connectors or I/o board is it possible that it could be a bad pendant connector? Can’t afford a tech. I figure this out or the things a paper weight.
I really appreciate your help.Thanks,
Andrew
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Hi,
I recently came into posession of a dual robot UP-130 system with an xrc-2001, a dual UP-165 system also with an XRC-2001 and four controller-less UP-6 manipulators. A horrid person chopped and discarded the cables for the Slave UP-165 making the UP-165 system useless except for parts. I have been trying to fire up the UP-130 system. Both controllers seem to boot but at start up i get one red led and two green leds on each WRCA card and then a 0021 Alarm communication error (Servo) . depending on which controller is booted first it will alternate between (servo) [50] and (servo) [51]. If i boot both controllers simultaneously it defaults at [51]. The Power supply to the left of the servo-pack has its green light on so power is being delivered. A minute or two after boot all lights on the WRCA card turn off. Tech support says robot one is having trouble communicating with robot two and vice versa. Important to mention is that someone had taken out a number of the cards in the slave controller and i had to put them back in as best i could according to the labels but some of the USB cables are not labelled. Any ideas on how to remedy this error? Also is it possible to reconfigure robot one to operate without robot two? being able to use only one robot may in fact be more ideal because i have limited space and then i could keep the slave robot and controller for parts and my UP-165 system would be usable as a single robot. Tech support said that this may be possible but that it may have to be done with management permissions (which they wont give me). Any advice is much appreciated.
thanks,
Andrew
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I’d also imagine the power and size has something to do with it. In humanoid robots great pains are taken to put as much of the power and control electronics into the chassis as possible, the need for mobility is also a great concern. Industrial robots on the other hand are stationary and have little to no mobility requirements meaning that their actual frames are just big motors gears and structure. All electronics are external allowing for no limitations on power. Humanoid robots (though I’m no expert) probably have motors operating in the tens of watts maybe a few hundred at most whereas industrial robots tend to have high voltage servos operating in the hundreds of watts up to 4-5 kw and up in the very large systems.
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No problem old gmf robots are super cool. I think that m-100 might be one of the , or a variant of one of the gmf robots with a cameo in terminator 1984 though you said it was 1987 so maybe not.and I think the terminator one had yellow cap servos. Let me know what happens with it. GMF robots are super rare these days most of them were scrapped a long time ago.
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Hi all, does anyone know where to find old GMF robots? I realize probably 95% of them were scrapped 15 years ago. I just think they’re wicked cool. They don’t need to work. Of particular interest would be an S series model 0 (the gmf robot with a cameo in terminator 1984) . Mostly I’m just fascinated by the design of these old antique robots.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/FANUC-M-10…VgAAOSwY0lXSkab Here’s a maintenance manual for the robot..... that system has an RH controller running around KAREL v1.6 ish I have an old rig controller of a similar vintage I’ve been trying to get to work for a while now with little luck.... you can get karel operations manuals that will tell you about using those old operating systems I believe..... something like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fanuc-Enha…y0AAOSwtxlb4csM
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Mine are a06b-6050-h202
So commutation is not caried out in the drive itself
It's sequenced in say the axis control unit?.....Yeah I saw that guys videos but I'm pretty sure he used a big bank of indramat drives for his retrofit -
Greetings I have a Fanuc p150 and I'm looking to retrofit the system hopefully using the existing velocity control units....does anyone know how to run these vcus without the RH karel CPU
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Hi so im looking to buy a pair of Fanuc S420-if robots. they appear to be in good condition coming from a working factory environment. Each unit has an RJ-2 controller. I recently learned that if these robots have been powered down for an extended period of time, their CPU batteries die and they become beating heart corpses if you turn them on, I.e. a machine with no O.S. I also understand that FANUC corporation is a den of thieves and they will charge you your first born child to send you a copy of the O.S. essentially can anyone send me the O.S. software for the Rj-2? otherwise i dont think it would be wise at all to aquire these units.
Thanks,
Andrew