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Kuka vision rip never liked it too buugy imho
you didnt like KUKA Vision?
What didnt you like about it?
kuka vision tech is the new GERMAN Tech pack with full support
Kuka vision rip never liked it too buugy imho
you didnt like KUKA Vision?
What didnt you like about it?
theres a way to setup the measurement within the software. What it does is basically setup the size of pixels to real world distance. some vision systems use extra tools to assist with teh distortion at the far end of the lens as well.
I tried to setup the software on my machine but cant because of firewall here at work. I will try to in a couple of hours though and see if i can help.
What are you trying to do?
I have looked into the scorpion vision years ago. Its theory is that you can take any camera, and use it with its software and within a couple of clicks, your right where you want to be. Personally, I didnt find that to be the case for me. yes there are few clicks, but within each click there are many parameters to add.
I also looked into Keyence software, and used it for a project. I wrote an app for it that allows you to trigger the camera from teh robot as well as view the images.
If i had to choose, I would personally go with the cognex camera. It may not be for everyone, but to me it is as simple as using an excel spreadsheet I can see everything that is going on with it in front of me as well. There are several different methods for using the camera to get the job done for you as well when using the camera.
1. KUKA Vision. This is an app that has been developed by KUKA UK (RIP). This is what i started off using in the past. Depending on what version camera you would use though would depend on my recommendation for this.
2. Serial Communication. I had a problem with kuka vision, and i was going to go route #3 for communciation and was having issues setting it up. When i called Cognex, they told me that the KUKA Robot is only capable of talking to other devices using serial communication.. That made me Giggle.
3. EIP. This is the mode that i used. Configuring it and setting it up was a little challenging, but it can be done.
4. as if i dont have enough pet projects going on, Im going to try to rewrite this into a plugin for the robot in the near future.
is there any specific reason you are wanting to using scorpion vision with the sony camera? What version camera is it? last i remember, you might actually be able to communicate directly with the camera over XML..
Break alot of things, Work endless hours, wonder why People with area code 586 wont return your calls, and try to see how many times you can get the big guy to swear.. thats what ive built my career on.
you need to execute it after the robot runs.. actually, you could put a menu entry into menukeyuser.ini that allows you to select it to run, then it will stream information across the network. I wrote the same type plugin for a robot but its still very buggy.
well, let me ask this question,
are you trying to modify these programs while the robot is running?
if so then yes, you may potentially want to use the dirloader, You would need to talk to roboter about its capabilities as i havent used it in a couple of years.
My documentation that im using says it is good for 5.2,5.3,5.4,5.5, and 7.0. thats for version 1.0.9
3.0.0 tells me
[Unsupported_KRC]
Option = KRDirLoader
KrcVersion = V1, V2, V3, V4, V5.0, V5.1, V5.3, V5.4
Error = Krc Version not supported
but now that i look, depending on what version, they may have issues with different KSS so thats best to have a talk with them about it..
I have included the documentation for 1.0.9
The latest version i have is 3.0 and that was about 3 years ago.
Display MoreI don't worry too much about Win 7 issues, worst case i'll install Win XP + OfficeLite on a secondary PC & connect via ethernet & remote desktop.
Currently i plan to install KUKA.Sim Pro + OfficeLite + KRL XML to communicate with the controllers (KRC 2 & 4).
From what i understood using the above configuration i can programatically: R/W positions, convert coordinates (cartesian <=> joints), listen to robot events and check reach-ability...
but what about:
1. run a program from an external program
2.1 programatically download a program or create a new one on an external program
2.2 do some textual work on the program.
2.3 load the program back to the robot from an external program.
will that be possible to do via KRL XML ?
Thanks
1. What external program are you trying to run? are you trying to have it selected via plc? the program typically needs to reside in the robot.
2. This can be done from Sim.Pro
3. UltraEdit is my 1st choice
4. if this is what your trying to do, are you trying to do this on the fly? because this becomes a bit more complicated using DirLoader. it might take some customization for the signals, I havent looked at it in a while but usually it is loaded upon triggering of inputs.
I dont see a date on this topic, have you gotten this to work?
I have a Office PC and a separate Sim.Pro PC that i use and they work good. It took a little setting up and after some trial and error, you learn what it needs to work.
Let me know if you need any assistance with this.
Thats a crazy thought for several reasons..
um, . i forgot.
Yes, Officelite will run within VMWARE, but if if i can think correctly, you might have to have the both of them within officelite. I know that when i write plugins that talk to the officelite pc, some strange things happen and it doesnt really like it.
im using Sim.Pro along with officelite. the two of those should get you just about anywhere you want, but the only problem is that your not going to get it running under windows 7. VxWorks doesnt play nicely with it. IIRC it has something to do with java.
you might have a different version KCP than then the controller is expecting.. are you getting anything? backlight?
Ive been working on making a plugin version of this app and have it partially working but just dont have a whole lot of time. hopefully ill have something very soon. just a couple of bugs that ive never seen before that are slapping me around. i need to go through some of my old code and see what it might be.
can you give any insight on how you did this? i know its using sockets but you are accomplishing this only using a dll on the robot side..
I love it, im trying to incorporate the similar feature to it in my text editor.
I have written an editor that will allow you to view folds in the same manner as the kuka. I am aware that there are some issues with it but if you tell me what is wrong i can fix it and post an update.
im afraid to ask which c# program for fear of getting kicked in the nads
any help in this subject is good help. unfortunately alot of the tutorials i have looked over have step 1 describing the task for the tutorial and then step 2 shows it finished..
cant believe i missed this one.
the KUKA can communicate to a keyence camera through ethernet. the older versions of keyence in my opinion were better suited for this because you could recieve notification for connect and disconnect signals to the camera. i believe that was the cv-5000 series. the newer cameras have an sdk but there is quite a bit of stuff missing.
the transmission of information to the camera is pretty straightforward. you send a value and it sends a value back. the transmission of an image on the other hand is another story.
I can probably answer any questions you have and i may be able to dig up a screen shot or two.