One mistake, i did a update of rev counters not in "zero position" Can i repeat this sequence and do it again in "zero position"?
what i did:
-prepared and installed new system without external axis without waterjet options and floor type mounting, imported calibration data file.
-limit switch circuit was opened, added jumpers on Panel Unit X1:X11-X12, X2:X11-X12 (as Skooter
-Error20253 temperature too high on PTCEXT, (i added jumper on front of Harting Han (D1-D2) connector but after that i received a lot of system errors "wrong type of DClink and etc.",probably that was created by poor connection of jumper, removed jumper did shut down and system problem disappear. I changed place of jumper from Harting Han connector to XP33 plug and inserted a jumper between 4-5 PINs. PTCEXT changed signal from 1 to 0 and everything looks good.
-in manual mode i had an error "Error 50204 Motion supervision tirggered for joint irb_2. i did Iowan suggestion ABB MOTION SUPERSIVION 50204 and it works. Do i need change gravity variable when i installed new system e.g. in MOC file?
Skooter I owe you a case of beer for you help!
Any suggestions? Over the weekend I will try to prepare the system on floppy disks and boot from them.
If it will be works i need prepare new backup files with removed all connections to ext_axis?
Today is a progress day,
I did a C-START and tried to download new system via Service Port(Ethernet connection) but i can't send system to robot PC because every time i see "A system with the same name as the selected system already exist on the controller. Rename the system or remove the duplicate on the controller"
I tried also add character after system number but nothing changed.
Topic with the same problem here: [SOLVED] Can't download to controller
I spent 2h to establish connection on serial to delete image.bin but i don't see this file finally.
(i don't know why but DB9 connector pinout is from PC controller side (PIN2 RX, PIN3 TX, PIN5 GND) but documentation said PIN2 TX, PIN3 RX, PIN5 GND). Maybe that was my misunderstanding but with oscilloscope that was easy to resolve.
Also FTP connection is working (don't type your system account with "HOST")
Another hint, Robinstall is working on WIN10 but WIN11 have problem with unzipping system files.
What I'm doing wrong with sending system to robot PC controller? Maybe i need to use diskette to download a system into robot PC controller? Any hints?
I will try to test the actual configuration without the external axis and with the actual larger DC-LINK/rectifier module, if there are any problems I will buy the smaller DC-LINK/rectifier module or servo motor for dummy operation.
Unfortunately i didn't find any floppy disc inside controller with RobInstall (only cigarettes) but sent a massage to ABB tech support and I'm waiting for response.
One thing confused me with connection via service port to ftp server. All addresses set correctly (IP address, net mask, gateway ip) but i cannot connect to ftp server which is hosted on controller.
In 99% of cases i received left statement, right statement is very little (check attachment)
Tested on 2 different PCs, one with WIN10 second WIN11, FTP clients: FilleZilla(tested on old and new version) and WinSCP also check via browser ftp://192.168.125.81 but nothing was opened.
Checked on two different crossed Ethernet cables too.
As we see on log in attachment, robot controller is working on VxWorks rtos and service with FTP server is running. I don't know it's problem with my PC setup or problem with robot controller.
I will try tomorrow this hint:
I changed place of Manipulator SMB with EXT axis SMB but nothing changed also cable continuity between SMB and DSQC513 looks fine.
Surprised something was wrong when i disconnected cable between (R2 SMB) EXT axis SMB with (X4 Measurement System 1) DSQC513 and started the system but nothing was changed. Error codes were the same.
I decided to change connection on DSQC513 card from (X4 Measurement System 1) to (X5 Measurement System 2) and it was a bingo . I think.
No internal errors are visible and see resolver values on teach pendant from manipulator SMB.
Current error codes:
My hypothesis is one of these
-damaged X4 Measurement System 1 - connector or electronics (most likely)
-some moron changed cable connection inside cabinet after disconnection from robots cell.
What should i do now? Prepare new system? If yes how to prepare it what software i need?
The topology is as follows: EXT AXIS SMB <cable> DSQC513 <cable> EXT AXIS CPU
EXT AXIS CPU swapped with Manipulator AXIS CPU - nothing changed
checked cable continuity between DSQC513 & AXIS CPU - looks good
check cable continuity between EXT SMB & DSQC513
swap EXT AXIS SMB with Manipulator SMB. Can i swap it?
Error 33506 is more common than 33417 but appear randomly
I would most like to take apart all the components responsible about External Axis and configure like in "standalone mode" What do you think?
I swapped the axis cards place with each other both 3HAC3619 (external axis <->manipulator axis) but i don't see any changes. I came back to factory seating configuration.
Sometimes error code 33506 is received or sometimes 33417 i don't know why.
"33506 Axis computer cmd error - Timeout when sending or receiving motion command to axis computer connected to connector board 2."
-Restart the controller
-Reinstall the sytem
-Replace Axis computer board
"33417 Transmission error - Error in measurement system 2 at connector board 2 when testing seriel link in normal mode."
-Check seriel link
-Check/Replace measurement board/s
Check/Replace Axis Computer board
I see connection with errors, when i click erase all logs then after reset i see 33417 error code.
I did a test with disconnected cable between axis card (from external axis, PCI3 slot) and DSQC513 (from external axis, X2 AXIS COMPUTER slot) . Code 38001 disappear but when is plugged nothing change.
If you still have the 55306 error, you could swap the 2 axis computer cards. and see if problem follows the card. Just reseating the cards in the PCI bus sometimes fixes S4C+ computer issues.
Still wouldn't worry about the battery error until the system errors are corrected.
Open circuit charging voltage (without battery) may be around 9V.
Unfortunately i don't have 55306 code of error.
Okey, don't worry about SMB error now, 9V was when battery was connected. First, as you mentioned, we have system errors to resolve. I will attach a file from backup floppy disk later today.
8.9V is weird. That should be a NiCad pack around 7.2V when charged, part # 4944026-2.
M2000 Panel Unit jumpers for the run-chain should be:
X1: 3-4-5, 7-8, 9-10, 11-12
X2: 3-4-5, 7-8, 9-10, 11-12
X3: 3-4, 7-8-9, 10-11-12
X4: 3-4, 7-8-9, 10-11-12
Something is bad i think with SMB in manipulator maybe embedded battery charging system. I measured today voltage and was 9V on connector pins which connect battery with SMB. Additional i hear strange noise like a squeak from inside SMB i'm not sure what element makes a sounds (electrolytic capacitors or switching coil). I disconnected battery plug and after 2 hours the voltage dropped from 8.6V to 8.4V.
SMB with disconnected battery generate the same strange noise and same error on teachpendant
""Error 38001 Battery Backup on SMB1 on measurement system1 at connector_board 1 lost since last power down or restart."
What do you think about changing SMB from external axis to manipulator side? We can try it after bypassing external axis functionality?
Photos of SMB in manipulator and NiCad pack:
Jumpers are done, only EN led is off. Safety button on the front panel and teachpeandant is working.Quote from Skooter
Where does the cable plugged into the DSDQC513 X2 Axis Computer connection go to?
Can you take a picture of the top of the computer unit?
Picture of the top of the computer unit https://drive.google.com/file/…Bf5w65Mv/view?usp=sharing
Sketch of connections: https://drive.google.com/drive…OJ1nIjaTLm7OidJFIL8x8f4Rf
additional info1: SMB battery voltage inside manipulator is about 8.9V. The battery consists of 6 cells and an orange 2 PIN connector. Replace in 2021.
additional info2: someone probably cut the wires from the dsqc 509 board x1,x2,x3,x4 slots.
The 33417 error should be the first one to tackle.
The SMB in the cabinet is for external axes. Where does the other end of the cable that plugs into SMB connector R2.SMB go to?
33417 error code disappeared and i don't see it after couple restart cycles. Now is "33506 Axis computer cmd error - Timeout when sending or receiving motion command to axis computer connected to connector board 2" Photo of cabling in attachment - slot R2.SMB from DSQC313 goes to DSQC513 slot x4 Measurement System1.
Do you have a backup? There is a lot of info in a backup that gives more insight into the setup that is now missing.
I think yes on floppy disk is all but floppy drive will be have in friday
Adding a picture of the amplifiers in the controller may also help. If you can read the DSQC numbers or the 3HAB numbers on the amps, that will work too.
Rectifier DSQC345C 3HAB8101-3/09A
Drive1 DSQC346G 3HAB8101-8/14C
Drive2 DSQC346C 3HAB8101-7/11A
Drive3 DSQC346C 3HAB8101-11/07A
ALL Photos in https://drive.google.com/drive…ZbC4pelu2177hyLZlU6AX4FUu
thank for your effort!
You mean the error "Error 38001 Battery Backup on SMB1 on measurement syste1 at connector_board 1 lost since last power down or restart." is connected with SMB in robotic arm? not SMB inside controller cabinet? can it be caused by the lack of connected external axis?
i bought IRB2400/10 arm with S4c+ M2000 controller which was not powered about 1 year and i try to run it but i have couple problems. The controller unit was connected to external axis and probably this is reason of main problems beacause now can't find external equipment. Can someone here know how to temporarily disable external axis?
Also have problem probably with SMB battery beacause error log sounds: "Error 38001 Battery Backup on SMB1 on measurement syste1 at connector_board 1 lost since last power down or restart. Battery temporary disconnected at delivery " and "20175 teachpendant lost contact. This will force Safety guard stop".
Someone can help me?