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Servo gun shared for 2 robots

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  • September 27, 2024 at 12:14 PM
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    • September 27, 2024 at 12:14 PM
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    Hi all,


    I have an upcoming project where we are going to use servo weld gun with ATC.

    We are planning to have a common gun for 2 robots. That means 1 servo gun will be shared by both robots. Robot 1 finishes welding then gun will be dropped to atc stand then robot 2 pickups and weld with same weld gun.

    Is there any technical issues for doing this if anyone having same kind of setup please let me know the details.

    Thanks regards<br />Vipin..

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    • September 27, 2024 at 5:05 PM
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    I personally haven't done it, but I think it should be doable with the servo tool change option. You call a karel program to disconnect the servo before releasing the ATC.

    Upon pickup, a similar karel program is called for servo connection.

    It is option #J671. Chapter 26 of the spot tool manual goes over it.

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    • September 29, 2024 at 9:39 AM
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    I have done servo tool change before. It was for single robot multiple guns.


    I think for 2 robots also it is possible.

    Thanks regards<br />Vipin..

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    • September 30, 2024 at 6:40 PM
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    The biggest issue I think you'll run into is the encoder positional data for the gun. When robot 1 puts down the gun robot 2 has to trust that it was placed on the perch with the EXACT SAME SETTINGS / POSITION.

    This can be overcome with a "autohome" every time the robot picks up the gun, but it will affect cycle time.

    The biggest difference here is doing 2 guns on 1 robot, the robot remembers the data from when the gun was unmounted. When 2 robots share a gun, robot 1 can unmount the gun with the servo in a different position that robot 2 will not know about.

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    • October 2, 2024 at 12:19 AM
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    Quote from Apkano

    The biggest issue I think you'll run into is the encoder positional data for the gun. When robot 1 puts down the gun robot 2 has to trust that it was placed on the perch with the EXACT SAME SETTINGS / POSITION.

    This can be overcome with a "autohome" every time the robot picks up the gun, but it will affect cycle time.

    The biggest difference here is doing 2 guns on 1 robot, the robot remembers the data from when the gun was unmounted. When 2 robots share a gun, robot 1 can unmount the gun with the servo in a different position that robot 2 will not know about.

    Umm, as far as I remember, the encoder battery for the welding gun axis is usually located on the controller cabinet, so a disconnection of the gun would imply it would lose the calibration.

    One problem with this is that it will lose his zero, this is usually not a problem as you can recalibrate the tips again knowing the wear but as you are sharing the gun, the robot will not be able to know the current wear of the tip anymore. If compensation is pneumatic it will not be a problem if you track the dressing and wear through one of the robots or even the plc, but if it's compensated by the robot this wear data is important so the robot compensate and actually touch the surface with the fixed cap.

    I am a bit rusty right now as I've stopped to work with spot welding a year ago, but one solution may be to handle this data externally and overwrite the wear through a routine that receives the data from the plc or the other robot.

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