Hello, is it possible to add the direct speed option to a d controller talked about in the programing manual? It seems kindof unnescary complex to change the speed in the aux menu instead of just inputing a speed for the step. Also is it possible to change the units on the machine to imperial vs metric?
Direct speed option and changing units
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tomcat955 -
August 31, 2024 at 2:56 AM -
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Yes, those are options relative to BLOCK programming only and available.
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Does kawasaki still sell the options on a controller this old? Is there any way to gain them or are they lost to time? It would be neat to add them to my robot if possible. It seems there's quite a few ways to get around lack of options or firmware using AS programming, just takes a bit more effort. For example if you don't have arc welding firmware it would be possible to program a weave using AS by using a equation to plot the points inbetween the start and stop of weld, while if you have the firmware it easy to block teach the weave. If I was able to run my zx200s d controller on arc welding firmware it would be much easier to block teach or atleast add a few options would help such as direct speed but im not sure if thats possible being that the robot was never made for arc welding firmware. Becoming fluent in AS is pretty much required the deeper I dive into this rabbit hole the more I realize, but with that being said If I can option out my robot it would be helpful to my efforts.
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It is strange to me too because I do not have the work coordinat tab on my menu. Is this another option?
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No way around the firmware, if there was, then there wouldn't be any point having firmware.
Direct speed is only applicable in BLOCK for mm/s, and in AS it's already available.
Work coordinates are just work spaces 1-9 which allows for monitoring the tcp and assigned dedicated outputs to turn on if the tcp is inside a set workspace.
Beside that, again without firmware if you do program in a weave, there would be no dynamic and kinematic control and you'd probably cause some damage long term as a workaround needless to say that long arms are just not rigid enough so you would likely have varied results dependent on distance/reach and also as the payload would probably be too low for any real optimized paths.
Have you reached out to Kawasaki at all regarding any firmware availability or even tried any arc welding firmware and see what happens?.
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I tried kawasaki they told me no arc welding firmware for zx200s. I kindof felt like they did not want to help me though. I don't know if there really is a barrier stopping you from loading arc welding firmware on the controller and running it with a zx200s or if they just did not want to provide the firmware. As far as my knowledge nobody has used a zx200s for arc welding before I am the first. And I understand the complications with it. I did hook my welder up to the robot and ran some test welds it welded just fine I was impressed as good as i can weld by hand. This robot is strictly for my experimental projects and products, with the main purpose going the hard route and forcing myself to learn more about automation. I don't see myself ever using it for any more then heavily fixture welding with repeatable parts. I don't know if this is allowed or not on this forum I apologize if it's not but basicly I am asking if anyone has the arc welding firmware for me to attempt to load onto my controller. I seen in one thread you mentioned possibly using it to control the speed mid step for a set of safety fields on a robot that I did not think was made for arc welding. I apologize for any ignorance my knowledge is self taught or learned from the internet I was never formally educated.
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What's your current AS and SV revisions on your controller?
What type of flash board is installed - 1KJ or 1QJ? -
I have 3mb of memory
The as group is as_0281040G
I'm not sure if this is the info you are looking for I included photos of my software version. I tried to look around in the manual for SV revisions and could not find much.
I have a 1qn-10 board mounted on the 1ka board
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What type of flash board is installed - 1KJ or 1QJ?
This board is mounted to the 1KA board and do you have a spare 1KA board you could use.
I ask this as unless you have a copy of the original firmware, you will not be able to put it back after any firmware change.Firmware is contained on either 1KJ or 1QJ whichever is fitted so if you have spares, then you can retain the original firmware.
So if you have a spare 1KA board, I would use that for any of your 'experimenting'.
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I have another 1ka board but I think I burned it up, I plugged the robot in while the controller was powered and wrecked havoc. Its a 1qn-10 board mounted to the 1KA I can remove it again and send a photo if you want to see for yourself.
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There was no physcial damage to the 1ka board I could see but when I went to boot I would just get a black lit teach pendant never made it to the kawasaki screen sometimes a blue screen. not sure what happend to it but replaced it seemed to work.
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I know what all the boards available are.
Please answer about 1KJ and 1QJ.1. What is installed.
2. Have you any spares of these.