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  • javaman
  • June 24, 2024 at 11:03 AM
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    • June 24, 2024 at 11:03 AM
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    Hello.

    I want to make a vacuum griper with suction cups working with venturi effect.

    They will grip steel sheet 1mm (non porous) payload about 10-20kg.

    I don't know how many liters/min air flow i must have to size air compressor and tank.

    What suction cups must get and how many also what vacuum generators and how many of these must get

    0.98US $ 86% OFF|Vacuum Generator Air Exhaust Ejector Pressure Pneumatic ACV CV 10 15 20 25 Negative Control Valve wyrzutnik prozniowy| | - AliExpress
    Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com
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    Can you give me a starting point ?


    Thank you.

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    • June 24, 2024 at 11:51 AM
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    best starting point would be to not start searching for parts on aliexpress

    i like SCHMALZ and FESTO, both offer pretty much every info you need to figure out your component choice

    https://www.schmalz.com/en-us/vacuum-technology-for-automation/vacuum-components/vacuum-generators/compact-ejectors/compact-ejectors-scpmb-scpmc-scpmi-307917/10.02.02.06473/

    this is an example of what i mean with "every info you need" and what is missing on aliexpress

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    • June 24, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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    My problem now is not what brand to select but sizing components.

    How many cups what size how much air flow compressor vacuum generators etc...

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    • June 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM
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    .. How many cups what size how much air flow compressor vacuum generators etc...

    Do like Alex nearly already told, you already have the correct order.

    First look for the cups, go to a good cups supplier, there you can get the technical data for the cups. So you can calculate the amount and size of cups, then go to venturi supplier....

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    • June 24, 2024 at 2:19 PM
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    to size cups you need to consider pressure and area.

    F = P/A

    pick your units and do the math...

    example, atmospheric pressure is 1bar or 1000mbar or 101.3kPa or 14.7lb/in^2...

    20kg is some 45lb but you want to add some safety since robot is moving etc. say you double it to 90lb. so if your vacuum generator can draw decent vacuum, you need suction cap that has area of 6in^2 or 1.4in diameter. how is that for sizing?


    years ago did a project with KUKA Titan... (1300kg rated robot). it was picking up steel sheets weighing up to 1000kg. several diner plate suctions cups did the job. have pictures somewhere...

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • June 26, 2024 at 5:42 PM
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    I have taught this to robotics students for years. Sizing vacuum components is a complex task because compressed air and vacuum are not linear functions. This is not to be taken lightly if you want to deliver a safe and robust solution.

    Every vacuum component supplier that I know will provide an Engineering section of their catalogs for users to make correct calculations. These calculations will provide such important information as maximum lifting force, minimum quantity and size of cups, flow rates, and minimum pipe sizing. Unfortunately, they all seem to calculate the values a little bit differently, which can be confusing. Schmalz, Piab, Camozzi, others all have excellent Engineering resources.

    Then after the calculations are made, the task is to select the correct style of cup, cup material, and method of vacuum generation. Finally the end effector structure and piping is designed. The supplier's Technical Support Engineers are there to help navigate the complexity.

    Tread carefully laddie, there be beasties and goblins in these woods.

    TygerDawg

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