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Bad tcp

  • MIJ
  • May 22, 2024 at 11:37 PM
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    • May 22, 2024 at 11:37 PM
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    I have a KR8 kuka robot. I taught a tcp and got the error down to 0.39, however when I tested the tcp I found that it's way off. Is this normal? Does this happen to anyone else?

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    • May 23, 2024 at 12:26 AM
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    How did you test it? By any chance is your robot equipped with the absolute accuracy package? If you tested while jogging try again with a program. While jogging absolute accuracy model is turned off.


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    things can also get really weird when wrong MADA is used or if robot is not mastered correctly or if tool is not mounted correctly (without dowel pin) or if tool is flexible or if reference point moved during measurement...

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • May 23, 2024 at 12:35 AM
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    I am not very sure about the absolute accuracy package. I will check and yes i just checked by rolling the torch around in A,B and C. So how else can I test the TCP? Do I have to be in a program and then try jogging it, is that what u mean?

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    • May 23, 2024 at 12:38 AM
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    If nothing works maybe I will try to do that option which enables me to check my mastering.

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    • May 23, 2024 at 8:20 AM
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    .. when I tested the tcp I found that it's way off...

    What does this mean? Quantify 'way off'

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    • May 23, 2024 at 2:47 PM
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    Means when I rotate the tool around A,B, C it's going all over the place instead of holding on to the center.

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    • May 23, 2024 at 2:54 PM
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    you still did not answer the question. "way off" and "all over the place" are not a number.
    quantify it means measure it, provide a value... 1mm, 10mm, 100mm, 1km...

    if the wobble is small (~1-3mm) it may be normal for the robot and chosen TCP.
    if the wobble is larger (~ 3-10mm) it is likely that reference point moved or tool shifted.
    if the wobble is even larger it is likely that problem is with mastering or MADA or belts slipping etc.

    in fact you did not provide any data. what is the measured TCP you got? is it far from flange?

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • May 23, 2024 at 2:57 PM
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    Means when I rotate the tool around A,B, C it's going all over the place instead of holding on to the center.

    Yes, but how much? How many mm of displacement per degree of rotation? On which axes? Quantifying the characteristics of the error is important. Orientation changes are the worst case for robot accuracy -- even a perfect TCP can easily drift 1mm over 90deg of rotation.

    Usually, if the MADA are incorrect, achieving a low error on the TCP 3-point process isn't possible. Incorrect LOAD_DATA could be a potential cause of what you're seeing. Activating the wrong Tool could be another. As has been stated upthread, the best test is to create a test program that touches the TCP to a reference point at multiple rotations, rather than jogging the robot manually.

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