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rapidly repeated ERROR 50055 JOINT LOAD TO HIGH

  • Alan Justice
  • March 19, 2024 at 7:31 AM
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    • March 19, 2024 at 7:31 AM
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    Hello guys, recently I installed ABB 1600 (2013) version (it was second-hand) for laser cutting. It's give very often error 50055 "joint load to high" on axis 1 in manual mode, i tried to decrease the speed up to V50, looks like it's working but this speed is too small for robot working in auto mode, moreover, this error repeating often, even when I move it manually by joystick it give this error

    Can you guide me on how can i fix this issue, please

    I've checked troubleshooting manual, here what is writen in the book:

    Description 50055:

    Actual torque on joint arg too high. Might be caused by incorrect load data, too high acceleration, high external process forces,low temperature or hardware error.

    Recommended actions

    Check load data. Reduce acceleration or speed. Check

    hardware


    P.S. Please consider that I have installed new laser head (tool) and new height controller and new laser source.

    I really appreciate any help you can provide. :winking_face:

    Edited once, last by Alan Justice (March 19, 2024 at 7:46 AM).

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    • March 19, 2024 at 2:28 PM
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    I believe you would have a service routine called LoadID. I would recommend running this and follow the instructions. This would set the tool and/or load with the proper center of gravity (based on the robots calculations) and should run better following this. See if you have it by going to the service routines in the program editor screen. Keep in mind you will have to run this in manual mode and then auto mode. I always check in manual first (as it gives you the option to just do it in auto) as It will follow the same path in manual/auto. If you need to cancel and restart, you will need to cancel call routine, bring it back to the main and then try the service routine again. I recommend placing the robot in a safe place with a good amount of room before trying this. Good luck!

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    • March 22, 2024 at 11:51 AM
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    Hello Viperacebb,

    Thank you for your response to my question.

    When this robot arrived it was a bit hited by something that it broke the screw of motor cable plug and everywhere was oil leak, I think it hited the motor cable but robot is working but with 50055 alarm on it. Do you think that it maybe one of main cause for this error?

    Thanks

    Alan

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    • March 22, 2024 at 1:32 PM
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    You should definitely check those cables thoroughly. Based on those pictures and the wires being #22-#24AWG, it's very easy to pinch/break them. Those are the resolver cables and would give you all kinds of position or sync errors... I would check those cables first before ordering a ton of parts.

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    • March 22, 2024 at 2:55 PM
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    AJ,

    Yes, you should check those motor connection cables as it can either affect the brake release or the resolver feedback which would both cause these types of issues.

    You said there was oil coming out of the motor? If this is the case then oil may have pushed through the motors seals and got into the motor causing the brake to over-speed and fail. This would require a motor rebuild.

    When you press the manual brake release for the motor do you hear a clicking noise and it moves easily?

    When you manually push the robot around axis 1 while holding the break release do you hear any noise or is there excessive resistance?

    Open the oil drain plug for Axis 1 (This is in the product manual) If you don't have we can provide and assist. Check to see if there are any metal shavings in the oil.

    I suspect the motor brake is likely starting to fail and causing this error. We see this all the time.

    We have all of these parts in stock and every other part for the IRB1600. We have 2 year warranty on all parts, and also have full repair shops and labs around the work and can quickly repair any servo motor, wrist units, power supplies, drives, or controls.

    Let us know how we can best support.


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    • March 26, 2024 at 3:25 AM
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    Brake connections are in the motor connector that appears undamaged. Agree with Viperacebb, need to fix obvious resolver connector/cable issue. Broken cable shielding in the resolver cable allows motor noise in the resolver signal and commonly gives collision, overload, and other errors.

    FSD has good advice for checking the brake as brake failures are also common with joint overload errors.

    Isolate where the oil is coming from, that's very important before putting the robot into production.

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    • March 26, 2024 at 11:31 AM
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    Hello everyone,

    First of all, I appreciate all your opinion you're gave.

    I marked with red circle is that correct cover oil drain plug for Axis 1 ? (Note: my robot is suspended mounted on frame on the top).

    I tried to press the manual brake release for the motor but I didn't hear any a clicking noise like in other robots and it's didn't move.

    I tried manually push the robot around axis 1 while holding the break release and I didn't hear any noise or there high resistance so I couldn't move it from place.

    Also I opened that motor cable plug which is arrived with screw fallen and hited by something, when it's arrived there was oil come out from motor, I took a picture you can see oil inside, is that ok oil presence of inside the motor? I took some ring seal from inside of motor also. If there must be oil inside , then it's oil level get few and that's why it's giving error?

    I'm looking forward to hear your recommendations on it.

    BR

    Alan

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    • March 26, 2024 at 10:34 PM
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    Since the robot is inverted, the drain plug is next to axis 1 motor, straight up from axis 1 motor connectors. It's visible in 2nd picture of post #3 above.

    The plug circled in the 1st picture in post 7 is a blind hole used by the ABB's Calibration Pendulum for setting axis 1. There is no oil in the robot base, only cables & SMB.

    There should not be oil in the motor. It will need to be replaced or repaired by a reputable motor shop. Oil in the motor usually requires multiple wash & bake cycles to remove all oil residue.

    You can check to see if axis 1 brake is getting voltage by:

    Disconnect axis 1 motor cable, measure for 22-24VDC between pin 4 (+) and pin 5 (-) when someone pushes axis 1 brake release button.

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    • March 27, 2024 at 5:40 AM
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    Hello Skooter,

    thanks for your reply,

    I've marked with red arrow, is that right drain plug to axis 1 motor?

    If inside of motor there shouldn't be oil how oil come inside the motor? and why there is uses seal on cable plug fixing point?

    BR

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    Yes - the arrow is pointing to the drain.

    Oil enters the motor thru its worn front seal.

    Oil can also enter past a slightly worn front seal that would normally not pass oil if the robot is subject to temperature variations.

    Example would be a robot stored in an unheated area or shipped during cold temps then brought to room temperature. As the air in the oil/grease chamber expands, the increased pressure can cause some oil to force past a slightly worn seal.

    Cable seals and other seals keep external debris and liquid out of motors and the internal portions of the robot.

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    • March 28, 2024 at 10:34 AM
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    Hi Skooter,

    We opened motor, and found that front seal was worn and everywhere was oil, is it possible to clean it and re use or need to replace with new motor?

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    Please re-read post #8 by Skooter.

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    Taking the motor apart may have made it harder for a motor shop to align it unless they're familiar with this type. I recommend replacing.

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    Hello Guys,

    The motor and all robot was painted so I am not able to identify the motor serial number and model numer, only what I could find it's part number 3HAC023557-001 and shield information.

    Can anybody help to identify this axis no1 motor unit serial/model number?

    Thank you in advance,

    Alan

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    If you have the ABB part #, that should be all you need. Axis 2 motor is the same.

    ABB had multiple vendors for the gearboxes with different motor pinions. Double check the pinion is the same on the replacement before you install it.

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    Quote from Alan Justice

    Hello guys, recently I installed ABB 1600 (2013) version (it was second-hand) for laser cutting. It's give very often error 50055 "joint load to high" on axis 1 in manual mode, i tried to decrease the speed up to V50, looks like it's working but this speed is too small for robot working in auto mode, moreover, this error repeating often, even when I move it manually by joystick it give this error

    Can you guide me on how can i fix this issue, please

    I've checked troubleshooting manual, here what is writen in the book:

    Description 50055:

    Actual torque on joint arg too high. Might be caused by incorrect load data, too high acceleration, high external process forces,low temperature or hardware error.

    Recommended actions

    Check load data. Reduce acceleration or speed. Check

    hardware


    P.S. Please consider that I have installed new laser head (tool) and new height controller and new laser source.

    I really appreciate any help you can provide. :winking_face:

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