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PAYLOAD DEFINITION

  • Evstahi
  • November 30, 2023 at 4:52 PM
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    • November 30, 2023 at 4:52 PM
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    Hello,

    One q. about payload definition we have a (ROBOT LINK) M-20iD/35 and by the software program we have gripper properties as follows:
    coord system is oriented the same as on robot so the values are the same.

    Mass: 25.54kg

    Center mass

    Z=17,4

    X=-10,8

    Y=-0,08 in fanuc value cm

    inertia:
    X=10,76

    y=12,52

    z=5,91 in fanuc values kgfcms2

    If we look the wrist load diagram we are under the 35kg, mark and when we set all in tool definition we get that the tool is in overload.

    But its a bit odd if we set all parameters to value "0", and try to set payload to idk 30kg we also get overload.

    Can somebody explain why is that?

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  • Nation
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    • November 30, 2023 at 7:37 PM
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    You look good to me. Are you using Fanuc's Excel based payload calculator?

    Check out the Fanuc position converter I wrote here! Now open source!

    Check out my example Fanuc Ethernet/IP Explicit Messaging program here!

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    Have a look into the units of the center mass. :winking_face:

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    • December 1, 2023 at 9:50 AM
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    You look good to me. Are you using Fanuc's Excel based payload calculator?

    we have changed to SI units in $SI_UNIT_ENB, so we have the same as in your excel.

    But yes when we entered the values the warning is still the same :thinking_face:


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    • December 1, 2023 at 9:58 AM
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    You think that values are to high?,....because we were quite precise when we were putting all the mass definition in 3D modeling

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    • December 1, 2023 at 6:21 PM
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    I ran a test on that robot is roboguide, and I was getting the same "overspec" alarm as you are.

    I then discovered that Fanuc sets the J3 armload as 12kg by default. That value directly subtracts from the allowed payload on J6. Set that to 0, and it will work.

    Check out the Fanuc position converter I wrote here! Now open source!

    Check out my example Fanuc Ethernet/IP Explicit Messaging program here!

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    • January 19, 2024 at 2:07 PM
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    I ran a test on that robot is roboguide, and I was getting the same "overspec" alarm as you are.

    I then discovered that Fanuc sets the J3 armload as 12kg by default. That value directly subtracts from the allowed payload on J6. Set that to 0, and it will work.

    Yes that was the solution...Thanks for the out of the box thinking

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    I then discovered that Fanuc sets the J3 armload as 12kg by default. That value directly subtracts from the allowed payload on J6. Set that to 0, and it will work.

    With FANUC the relation/combination of armload and payload depends on the robot model. It is not always payload = allowed payload - armload. There are different "rules" depending on the robot model.

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