KUKA KRC2 CLONING ,USB OPTION

  • Hello everyone,


    I have KUKA KRC2 with Version V5.4.14,


    I'm attempting to clone the robot's internal IDE drive. I have clonezilla-equipped bootable USB attached to the robot. Unfortunately, after looking through the PC's Boot settings, I was unable to locate a USB boot option.


    What can be the reason for this? Do I need to find different option for the cloning ?can anyone kindly share your thoughts and recommendations.


    Thanks in Advance

    Advmin

  • did you check if USB is enabled in the BIOS?

    also KUKA controllers will not boot from USB stick unless if it can confirm that the USB stick is from KUKA.

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

  • did you check if USB is enabled in the BIOS?

    also KUKA controllers will not boot from USB stick unless if it can confirm that the USB stick is from KUKA.

    Hai Panic mode,


    Many thanks for the reply,


    where can I find that option to check whether USB is enabled in the BIOS.

    I couldn't find any option for that. If I open boot options in the setup it is showing option as primary display.

    It is indicated in the advanced system setup that the USB legacy support is enabled.

    I've included the appropriate photographs in this attachment.

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    KUKA controllers will not boot from USB stick unless if it can confirm that the USB stick is from KUKA.

    Since I don't have a KUKA stick with me, could you guys kindly recommend a different method of using Clonezilla to start the KUKA computer?

    Do we also require a KUKA-specific CD for that, or can we use any bootable CD with Clonezilla?





  • Hai everyone,


    I read through numerous threads on related subjects in robot form, and I learned a lot from each one. Based on that, I followed these instructions to copy the Kuka drive. Unfortunately, when I connect my new drive to the robot, I receive the error message as "Error loading operating system."


    Has anyone else have this problem before? Please help me with it if you can.


    Steps.

    1. took out the HDD in the Robot.

    2. connected the HDD to the Laptop using a usb/ide adapter.

    3. made an image backup of Robot HDD to an another external storage using clonezilla through a bootable usb stick.

    4.disconnected the robot HDD and connected new HDD to the laptop.

    5.copied the image backup to the new HDD using clonezilla, showing message as cloned successfully in the laptop screen.

    6.Connected the new HDD to the kuka Robot.


    When I turn on the robot ,getting error as 'error loading operating system'

    the difference between the drives are the existing kuka hdd is 'FUJITSU MHT2030AR 30GB' and the new hdd is 'FUJITSU MHR2030AT 30GB'


    can anyone kindly share your thoughts and recommendations.


    Thanks in Advance

    Advmin

  • are you sure you have enough of RAM to use KUKA UsbRecovery stick?

    as i recall they need 512Mb and many KRC2 had less...


    but... if your KUKA stick is updated and ruining at least V3.x then you can take the robot HDD out of the KRC and connect it to your computer using USB adapter. then you can still backup and restore HDD image.


    KUKA (used to) maintain link to software upgrade for older USB sticks. it is worth to upgrade them even if they are low capacity because newer software has added features like one mentioned. also it is possible to backup or restore one partition at a time which previously was not possible.

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

  • are you sure you have enough of RAM to use KUKA UsbRecovery stick?

    They're not using the KSR, they pulled the HDD and used CloneZilla offline

    When I turn on the robot ,getting error as 'error loading operating system'

    First thing to check: use a keyboard on the KRC and get into the BIOS menu, then see if the BIOS can see and ID the new HDD.


    Check the M/S jumpers on the new HDD. That's important for IDE drives. Might also try disconnecting the CD-ROM temporarily just to ensure there's no confusion.

  • Is the "FUJITSU MHR2030AT 30GB" really a new one or just "a new one"


    This problem may occur if there were any write errors while cloning.


    The tool I am using is MiniTool Partition Wizard


    First step:

    check for read errors


    select hdd -> mouse right cklick -> select Surface Test

    result should look like this

    Second step:

    check for File System errors

    select hdd -> mouse right cklick -> Check File System


    result should look like this



    AS final step I also would check drive for viruses


    Assuming that

    BIOS settings for hard drive is correct

    Jumpersetting on the hard drive is correct

    good ribbon cable

  • They're not using the KSR, they pulled the HDD and used CloneZilla offline

    First thing to check: use a keyboard on the KRC and get into the BIOS menu, then see if the BIOS can see and ID the new HDD.


    Check the M/S jumpers on the new HDD. That's important for IDE drives. Might also try disconnecting the CD-ROM temporarily just to ensure there's no confusion.

    Dear Panic mode/SkyeFire/MOM, Many thanks for your replies.


    Yes, the new HDD is identified, according to the BIOS menu that I checked.


    We are opening the metal case to replace the HDD while the jumper is outside the metal case. Therefore, we are not altering the jumper connection; it remains the same.


    I tried turning on the robot after unplugging the CD-rom, but I continue to receive the same problem as 'error loading operating system'.

  • the "FUJITSU MHR2030AT 30GB" is just 'a new one' because we bought it as second hand.

    I followed your instructions and obtained the outcome as depicted in the photographs, with no errors found.



    Because everything works fine as soon as I attach my old HDD drive, I think the BIOS, jumper settings, and ribbon cable are good.

  • Very odd. CloneZilla always worked for me on KRC2s.


    You could use two IDE/USB adapters, and do a device-to-device clone instead of device-image-device. You could also try booting to a regular Linux distro and try one of the alternate methods listed here: https://www.maketecheasier.com…-entire-hard-drive-linux/


    When using CZ, which options did you use? You need to make sure to clone the Master Boot Record (that should happen by default, but it can be shut off).

  • There is also another Tool called HxD (Freeware Hex Editor and Disk Editor)


    With this tool you can view the master boot record (MBR) starting atSegment 0. You may also check whether the Boot Flag is set to 1

  • in order to boot from HDD, several things need to be right on the HDD itself:

    it must have MBR intact,

    partition that is primary type

    correct file system for the target OS and PC,

    partition must be formatted and contain bootable OS

    and of course partition itself must be set active (using FDISK or whatever).


    if any of this is missing there is no way to boot...


    when one is copying files from one folder (or drive) to another using Windows Explorer, only files are transferred. when cloning bootable disk one must use correct tool and correct tool settings to transfer not just files but also everything else mentioned (partition and make it active, MBR etc)

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

  • Thank you all so much for your insightful comments.


    I'll try all of these options and get back to you once I've had luck with the cloning process.

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