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Help startup with S4C controller

  • jarnok
  • February 4, 2023 at 2:41 PM
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  • jarnok
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    • February 4, 2023 at 2:41 PM
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    Hi all,

    Usually I work with IRC5 or omnicore controllers, but currently I have two old robots with two S4C controllers. Today I tried to start them up.

    I am running in the following issues:

    1. On one controller the teachpendant doesn't startup. The screen doesn't even change in brightness when I put the power on.

    2. I tried the same teachpendant on the other controller, and the teachpendant seems to work. However, it keeps saying:

    Welcome to the S4C controller. After every x seconds (~30), it shows an screen that a warm startup is in progress. However, after 20 minuts this is still running.

    3. I have two teachpendants, but only one is complete. The other one doesn't have a connector. Is there any drawing that shows me which number/colour of the cable I must insert in which position?

    Thanks in advance!

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    • February 8, 2023 at 2:56 AM
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    From some very old notes for the connector

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    • February 8, 2023 at 2:48 PM
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    I have a few older sc4 models. I found that I was able to use parts from sc4+ but the sc4 was wired different. I bought a used controller online from company and it did not work since the estop was wired different and dead shorts the robot. there is a circuit diagram in the manual if you have

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    • February 9, 2023 at 2:53 AM
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    Both the S4C & S4C+ use the same 3HNE00313-001 teach pendant. The XS20 connection on both controllers are the same.

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    • February 9, 2023 at 4:54 PM
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    Hi

    i agree the book says they are all the same. Oddly though, i have 3 that are wired different. I have a old s4 that the pinout is way different. I bought a used pendant for a s4c+ and it worked on other models except the estop was wired different in this one. I just took them for the screens and buttons though. They had all similar internals. 2 had different circuit board revisions

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    • February 11, 2023 at 5:16 PM
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    Even though their XP20 connectors are the same part #, the S4 & S4C teach pendant cables are wired differently to match the differences between the S4 & S4C cabinets. The way the safety signals are handled are very different. In this regard, the S4 has more in common with the S3 than the S4C.

    The thin-style S4 pendant (3HNE00311-1) was produced as both a ergonomic replacement for the older S4 pendants and gave it better display compatibility with the S4 version of BaseWare3.0. The 311 pendant has similar hardware to the early revision of the S4C (3HNE00313-1).

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    • February 21, 2023 at 8:55 PM
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    Hi all,

    Thanks for the replies. Last saturday I tested several things.

    The teachpendants look the same, but the pin layout ARE NOT the same.

    Skooter, thanks for the pin layout. This layout seems Ok, because the teachpendant without connect now has power, however the TP now says: "Communication Lost". Any idea what that could be?

    For the other controller, everything seems okay, but I keep getting stuck at the screen:

    "Warm start in progress" (see image on first post). Even if I keep the power on for 24h, it still displays thiss message.

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    • February 22, 2023 at 11:51 PM
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    These are waiting to communicate with the controller.

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    • February 23, 2023 at 1:37 PM
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    Perhaps a reference to an outstanding post from Skooter may be in order:

    A Great Tool From Skooter

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