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Considering Software update from v8.10 to v9.30, risks?

  • Douggle07
  • February 25, 2022 at 3:21 PM
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  • Douggle07
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    • February 25, 2022 at 3:21 PM
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    Hello friends,

    I don't have any immediate problem, but am posting to seek some insight on a line upgrade in the near future.

    I've heard we have around 1 week of day shift downtime (~40 hours) to implement a couple new cells that an existing robot will interact with, adding a double gripper and 8 new part types with all different sizes/weights.

    The existing robot is a M-20iA/10L, with an R-30iB controller running v8.10P /30 software. Another company had previously programmed this robot ~10 years ago and the code is messy, but I'm in the process of cleaning up the code and adding in the new functionality the robot will need.

    The robot is communicating with a PLC through CC-link, and has basic DCS, motion package, and a Safe I/O kit.

    My intention was to simplify the existing programs by utilizing background logic and IF-THEN statements, but I realized that IF-THEN isn't available in v8.10 software.

    So my question is, considering the details above is it recommended/worth it to update the software version from 8.10 to 9.3 (or any version where IF-THEN is available).

    I've done software updates before but only jumping 1 or 2 versions... not one as large as this.

    If anyone can provide some insight on possible risks or things to consider for such a large software update, that would be greatly appreciated.

    Best Regards,

    Doug

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  • pdl
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    • February 25, 2022 at 3:29 PM
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    I don't believe that you can upgrade between major revisions without changing hardware.

    The processor is different between the R30iB and the R30iB+.

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    • February 25, 2022 at 3:48 PM
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    Thanks for the quick repsonse pdl , very useful to know that.

    I will plan to write programs based on v8.10 software for now...

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    • February 25, 2022 at 4:05 PM
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    pdl is correct.

    You can auto update the 8.10 to the latest revision though, which is P/32.

    May help with some stuff fixed along the way


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    • February 26, 2022 at 2:29 PM
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    Consider the while loop. Older robots have this but not the new ones. I’m looking at a problem that would work great with a while loop but I have to use the if then statement on the 9.3 software. Works basically the same but you can’t stack multiple bits on the same while so you could use multiple whiles in succession with the same condition and different outputs.

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    • February 26, 2022 at 10:39 PM
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    No matter possibility of such upgrade, I see no rational of such, based on the information provided.

    In very few occasions had I problems because of not upgrading, but many times because of doing so.

    Not only with robots.

    Do it well right away. It will become bad by itself.

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    • March 3, 2022 at 5:22 PM
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    pdl is correct.

    You can auto update the 8.10 to the latest revision though, which is P/32.

    May help with some stuff fixed along the way


    Would upgrading from V8.10 to V8.30 be considered a major revision?

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    No, the number before the decimal place is the major rev number. So 8 to 9 is a major rev.

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