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**panic mode** · December 3, 2021 at 5:47 PM Best Answer

Quote from Gocea

It it is the easiest way for sure, but as I've mentioned, it is not possible because I don't have administrator password to log on as administrator in Windows. In the same time I can't reinstall KSS. Simply, I don't know where to start.

if you boot from other media (this hdd is only attached as a storage, not used to boot) then you should have full access to everything on it

Quote from Gocea

... I'll implement all of you advices one by one.
Before that, I have a brief question ....

you should try all advices and answer all questions before you ask any further questions.

Quote from Gocea

Do you thing that the Ram stick has been damaged somehow, holding some old files and does not let the new files to be copied on it ?
Should I replace the supposed damaged Ram with another one as a first step ?

RAM is sensitive. any time you touch it (literally) you are running risk damaging it. stop touching it unless you have to... btw RAM is (or can be) tested by motherboard or separate program.

Gocea · December 3, 2021 at 6:20 PM

Quote from panic mode

if you boot from other media (this hdd is only attached as a storage, not used to boot) then you should have full access to everything on it

That was second thing I was thinking that has to be done. I'm going to attach Cd rom boot from it and try to access the C: hdd using Hiren's bootCD in order to overwritte the needed Mada files.

I'll let you know what will happen and what will be the next step. Thank you.

Gocea · December 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM

Quote from panic mode

if you boot from other media (this hdd is only attached as a storage, not used to boot) then you should have full access to everything on it

Hello panik mode,

I just tried to boot from bootable Cd but with no success (checked at another pc, the cd boots Hiren without any problem). Reorder of the bootable media is protected by system administrator probably. Simply there is no way to reorder the bootable media from the bios menu. Any help at this issue?

hermann · December 12, 2021 at 8:53 AM

Try it harder, it is possible. But the procedure needed to do that sometimes is a bit confusing. Try a keyboard with separate numpad, try keys enter and +/- up down in several combinations.

There is no restriction by admin, password or something else.

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 9:15 AM

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There

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There is no restriction by admin, password or something else.

Hello Hermann,

I tried meny combinations already, ctrl +, enter+, F10, boot from CD, Usb, none does works. I'll give another try, anyway. It is big problem, because also I can not make new Win XPe installation, as last option.

Your oppinion to the following steps:

1. take out the Hdd;

2. connect the Hdd to another Pc as external Hdd;

3. make a backup of the Hdd;

4. give administrative right;

5. place the Hdd back;

6. reinstall the Kuka Kss in order to resolve the problem I fall in (the filles in the hdd can not be either compiled or writted by the Kss.

Thanks in advance.

(The doubt for existance of administrative right in bios, comes from the picture bellow)

MOM · December 12, 2021 at 12:28 PM

you do not need admistrative rights for the bios (at that time windows is not even started).

check whether someone has added a bios passwort (settings and/or system).

for usb support you need Mainboard FSC D1688 USB-Support (article number 00154293)

In this case the bios Rev. 1.05.08 is installed.

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 2:20 PM

Quote from MOM

check whether someone has added a bios passwort (settings and/or system).

for usb support you need Mainboard FSC D1688 USB-Support (article number 00154293)
In this case the bios Rev. 1.05.08 is installed.

There is no password added, the Usb is supported and enabled. Still, boot from Usb using F10 key is not possible.

Would changing Hdd jumper to slave mode resolve booting from Cd or Usb either?

hermann · December 12, 2021 at 2:32 PM

You can not go into "Boot Options" ?

MOM · December 12, 2021 at 3:31 PM

AS I remember you can only boot with kuka usb stick or kuka hdd

if you follow hermann suggestion (post #28) then you should come to this screen

the leg · December 12, 2021 at 4:22 PM

most common thing on these is the cdrom is knackered try another cd rom drive

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 6:14 PM

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AS I remember you can only boot with kuka usb stick or kuka hdd

You are right, probably. I have succeeded to choose boot from Cd using F12 key, but the content of the Cd was not loaded (previosely tested and loaded at another Pc).

Any suggestion how to pass this obstacle, (boot from Cd) ?

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 6:14 PM

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**panic mode** · December 12, 2021 at 6:23 PM

either your CD Drive is busted or CD is either busted or not compatible. Perhaps it is not a CD at all, maybe you burned DVD and trying to read it in a CD drive...!?

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 6:32 PM

Quote from hermann

You can not go into "Boot Options" ?

You are right, but the menu for boot sequence was not right there.,has to be used F12 key, instead.

Anyway, I did not succeed to boot from the Cd content. Booting from Cd is protected somehow, probably.

Either, the content is not visible in Windows file explorer.

Any suggestion ?

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 6:36 PM

Quote from panic mode

either your CD Drive is busted or CD is either busted or not compatible. Perhaps it is not a CD at all, maybe you burned DVD and trying to read it in a CD drive...!?

I have tried with the both Dvd and Cd rom, the result was same.

Any suggestion for compatible Cd rom?

**panic mode** · December 12, 2021 at 6:51 PM

try to see if your robots CD drive will read anything.... so try putting in whatever discs you have. check attic, basement or garage for any old CDs (real CDs not DVDs) or consider visiting your parents or grand parents, they too may have something old (AOL disc or whatever).

also reading is a very good skill, so keep your eyes open, look closer and read...

most products actually label media type on the top or on the inner ring of the media.

https://www.wikihow.com/Tell-if-a-Disc-Is-a-CD-or-a-DVD

tips:

1. test your burned bootable CD on different computer (not one used to burn it).

2. burned disc may not be properly closed and therefore may not be readable on other platforms

3. some platforms do not like multisession discs so they may work fine elsewhere but not on platform you want.

4. CD-R and CD+R are different and require correct type of burner. but once burned, both should be readable on any CD drive. in general "+" format is superior to "-".

5. DVDs are not readable on CD drives but DVD drives will generally have no problem reading CDs.

MOM · December 12, 2021 at 6:57 PM

Is there a jumpersetting on your drive? If, is the jumper set to master?

Gocea · December 12, 2021 at 7:02 PM

Quote from MOM

Is there a jumpersetting on your drive? If, is the jumper set to master?

The Cd rom jumper was set to master.

What is your oppinion, have I set the Hdd jumper to slave, in the same time?

**panic mode** · December 12, 2021 at 7:06 PM

they should be on separate IDE channels since CD drive is much slower than HDD.

normally:

on primary IDE master is HDD and there is no slave

on secondary IDE CD is a master and there is no slave

one can connect both HDD and CD to same IDE but one must be a master and the other must be a slave... however this is going to bog down HDD performance

MOM · December 12, 2021 at 7:18 PM

the ribbon cable runs straight from IDE1 connector to your hdd.

your cd-rom is connected to the IDE2

If you have an usb cd-drive you could this one (use F12 for that)

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