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Battery or battery fuse defective backup not possible KRC4 KSS 8.3.17 HF1

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  • November 26, 2021 at 3:52 AM
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    • November 26, 2021 at 3:52 AM
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    Hello ,


    KRC4 KSS 8.3.17 HF1

    i have the next message "Battery or battery fuse defective backup not possible"

    when i plug the batteries the red led of fuse battery turn on

    when i disconnect batteries red led of fuse battery turn off

    when turn off the KRC does not shutdown normally , immediately black screen

    -Battery are news and fully charged on other cabinet krc2

    -fuse ok


    some friend suggest me unplug the board ccu clean and reconnect it ,

    it works correctly , the led of fuse turned off and hibernate

    but just work once

    i repeat the process several times , clean and reconnect but doest work correctly

    the error stills:

    not hibernate

    the red led corresponding battery fuse turn on with batteries fully charged are plugged ,

    The red led corresponding battery fuse turn off when i remove the batteries


    BR


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    • November 26, 2021 at 4:37 AM
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    if LED is on, then fuse is not good. change it. it seem to be intermittent.

    never had to clean CCU. why your need cleaning?

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    • November 26, 2021 at 9:11 PM
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    the fuse its ok

    i clean the CCU just for suggestion

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    • November 26, 2021 at 9:39 PM
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    i see no KUKA recommended maintenance that involves cleaning CCU. this part is inside cabinet and that is the clean zone. cabinet door is supposed to be closed at all times - to prevent ingress of dust (or worse) and to ensure proper air circulation for cooling. More over any cleaning need to be done in accordance with requirements. Friction from cleaning (air flow, rubbing with dry cloth etc.) can introduce static and damage board. This is why vac cleaner that KUKA uses is ESD rated. never use compressed air... intrducing other cleaning means (liquids, abrasives, solvents etc) is a whole new game but i guess you would not want to share the picture of the CCU before and after cleaning and what cleaning method you use.


    as for fuse, something is not right there or you would not be asking for help.

    i have seen personally all kinds of circuits that exhibit intermittent problems - and fuses (and fuse holders) are not immune. one relatively common issue with diagnostics is that people doing troubleshooting do not consider testing thing under working conditions.

    For example they disconnect the motor, then check continuity or resistance of windings or brake and it looks ok. but when motor is connected back it may still not work. it is because multimeter uses tiny voltage and current for resistance test. but in real world those motor circuits sue voltage and current that is many times larger. this means the test will fail to detect poor connection. this is not a bad test, it is just insufficient. at best it tells if there is a problem but if result looks good, that is not a guarantee that there is no problem.

    and if you see that blown fuse LED light up, that is because fuse or fuse holder are not ok. if fuse was ok, the LED would be shorted and therefore not on. so i guess that one little fuse must be too expensive of a part to replace it as part of diagnostic process or preventive maintenance. better call KUKA and replace entire CCU. problem solved.

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    • December 15, 2021 at 9:58 PM
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    thanks , i think its the CCu

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  • calibration
  • Communication
  • CRX
  • DCS
  • dx100
  • dx200
  • error
  • Ethernet
  • Ethernet IP
  • external axis
  • Fanuc
  • help
  • hmi
  • I/O
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  • IRVIsion
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  • kawasaki
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