cant start kuka vkr 200/2 to run program

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yes the I/O are on the MFC but they are not always wired or configured. i worked on few KRC1 (GM units?) where I/O ribbon inside KPC was only 1/2" wide so I/Os were inaccessible.

hi panic mode . sorry thati was missing this days but i was ill.

i could understand in the long answer you sent me days ago that i cant conect the PLC i have. I supossed that but i was trying things because i don,t have f***ing idea about KUKA. .

i tried welding the selector as i saw in a thread here but it doesnt works.

by the way, how can i see the things you ask me for? the version you wanna know and the others things.

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check pinned topic READ FIRST

done

the KSS version is: v 4.1.4 sp02.

the robot is: KR200 2 tj floor zh02.

there is no teach packages installed.

Quote from panic mode

this is strictly controller related discussion so robot arm type is irrelevant

check if your controller is fitted with any I/O and if you have any spare I/O points.

you can open PC and take a look inside. MFC has some I/O but to use them ribbon cable need to be the wide one (all circuits connected).

besides those, one can add more I/O using DeviceNet

for more details on using DeviceNet, refer to previous topics such as

KRC1 - Winsock driver problem / Does not work MFC card

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the PC has the MFC card insaid. The port you show for the ribbon cable is free.

in the upper side of the card is the famouse db15 i tried to conect

Quote from hermann

Those old KRC1 have standard physical I/O.

If I remember correct there are 16 inputs and 20 outputs.

thanks for answer hermann.

i supposed this but the only thing i find is that they are in the x11 conector but this controler hasn,t got this conector. Do you know where they are into the KRC1 ?

Quote from panic mode

for the fifth time ... try reading pinned topic READ FIRST.

do your homework and then ask questions. and when those responding are asking questions or making suggestions, do not ignore, follow through.

real people spend time trying to help you so if you ask for support, don't ignore it - try suggestions and answer all questions. this is free forum and free advice for those that are savvy or at least persistent. but if you expect turn-key solution and white glove type service, contact KUKA or your local contractor and be prepared to pay for it.

KRC1 is not a single product. it is a product line (family of products) and many iterations exist. we cannot read minds and guess what exact version you have there. read schematics and supplied documentation. many things are optional and not installed on every unit. if you don't have documentation, check forum download section and Xpert. all of this is already mentioned in READ FIRST.

if you cannot read schematics or just plug in ribbon cable to a ready interface and ring out I/O ... you should not be doing it. get help of someone knowledgeable.

or don't even bother with the ribbon cable and built in I/O on the MFC. add I/Os using DeviceNet. this allows you to add many I/O. that too is already shared. everything is already stated, you just need the will to read it and follow through.

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im really sorry one more time.

im new in this things and sure sometimes im wrong. Sorry

i have only the robot, the teach, the controler and things i wanna do to learn about something (KUKA) i dont know at all. If it was with a ABB robot i ain,t trying to find help at all.

i found out dozens of manuals but certain things aren,t how they,re supposed to be and i sometimes i feel lost.

By the way i already found how to run the robot in external automatic. My doubt now is, as i have two equal robots, how to comunicate both , even if it is only with a physical I/O, so that they do a work together.

ill keep on reading and looking for information about it all, i promise.

my deepest apologies one more time dear panic mode.

Quote from hermann

So they are not connected to anywhere. As panic mode said, it's up to you to connect them, or use seperate devicenet modules.

i understand hermann . so, i think that i have to find a x11 cable to conect them to the MFC card and then to the external I/Os, no?

dear hermann, it seems i´m wrong one more time. dont you think?

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May be you are a little bit overwhelmed with the task.

On MFC card there are physical I/O.

They are accessible on the ribbon connector.

You can plug a cable to the connector, wire them to a PLC or whatever you want.

But, the next mission will be to configure them in the iosys.ini and $config.dat.

So as panic mode already mentioned, it would be better to get help from a person who knows to do that tasks. Doing all those tasks with help over this forum will last a very very long time.

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first of all, thanks a lot for your atention.

you are right about i feel overwhelmed sometimes but i try to do my best.

i think im beginnig to understand the issue. i already know how to configurate I/Os in iosys.ini and config.dat. the harder to understand for me is the way to comunicate the MFC by the ribbon cable with the PLC but, is it so easy to do how plug the ribbon on MFC and plug the other side of the cable in the PLC I/Os and assign in booth sides?

in this case i have a doubt, i dont know and haven´t got any information about which pin in the conector of the MFC are which I/O.

in order of your other recommendation i have to tell you that i have no one to ask for help here.

thanks again hermann