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KRC4 and $meas_puls[1]. Who knows the pins of X23 and X25?

  • Henry Sheppard
  • June 19, 2020 at 11:16 AM
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    • June 19, 2020 at 11:16 AM
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    Subj...

    I'm trying to see the $meas_pulse[1], for example, in real time, but I haven't the optional cable for X33. But X33 at the connection plank = X23 & X25 on the board...

    I know that 1-2-3-4 pins on the X33 must be "digital input". 5 - reserve. 6 - +24V. 7 - Gnd In. 8 - 0 Internal. 9 an 10 - don't know...

    But who knows the real pins at X23 connector or X25?

    I need to activate primitive binary sensor w/o EtherCAT or ProfiBUS :smiling_face:

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    • June 19, 2020 at 12:30 PM
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    Maybe someone knows pins of optional X33-cable at both ends?

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    • June 19, 2020 at 1:05 PM
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    Check schematic diagram of your controller as well as Optional Interfaces manual.

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    • June 19, 2020 at 1:23 PM
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    I have not any manuals :))) but I downloaded the manual with description of pins for external connection. Picture is in attach. The pins are: 1-2-3-4 pins are "digital input". 5 - reserve. 6 - +24V. 7 - Gnd In. 8 - 0 Internal.

    I need the same info for other end of this cable. It must be classical computer 10-pin connector with 2x5 pins. But location of pins is a bit mysterious... :winking_face:

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    • June 19, 2020 at 2:37 PM
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    by "classical computer 10-pin" you mean header X23.

    that is in the controller schematics

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    • June 19, 2020 at 3:08 PM
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    Exellent! Looks like the truth :winking_face: maybe You know numbering of physical pins? They are placed as 2 rows with 5 pins each row :smiling_face:

    It's a bit nervously to link w/o knowledge directly to board :smiling_face:

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    • June 19, 2020 at 3:21 PM
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    "dual row header connectors" use sequential numbering that alternates between rows like this:

    and you can confirm that since there is voltage on some pins (see previous post)

    EDIT...

    as correctly pointed out by dexterv, these are not plain header connectors, they are MicroFit and pin numbering is row by row.

    Either way caution is advised when making any connecitions.

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    • June 19, 2020 at 3:32 PM
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    Ghm... I'd tested this type of numbering, but nothing hopeful. Will try with knowledge of your previous picture :winking_face:

    Siemens, Kuka and sometimes HP like to use strange connectors :smiling_face: A lot of fun and f..uk-f..uk-f..uk!, especcially then you have only primitive tester ;)))

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    • June 19, 2020 at 3:38 PM
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    always need right tool for the job.

    one can get multimeters for $10-20

    small thing compared to cost of replacement CCU board.

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    • June 19, 2020 at 4:19 PM
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    It was a joke :)))

    I'm trying to ping X23 now...

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    • June 22, 2020 at 8:49 AM
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    It's a Molex Micro-Fit connector, the numbering is sequential in the rows, and the first pin is usually marked on the connector on one of the four corners, if not you can get it from the datasheet.

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    • June 22, 2020 at 10:52 AM
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    It's not a problem. Some engineeer's joking - who worried about? :winking_face:

    But I' really surprised. Will share the schemes in half an hour... Really mystical, but real problem :winking_face:

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    • June 22, 2020 at 11:35 AM
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    there the truth? :winking_face:

    I see only the "" instead of "1"/"0" or "true"/"false"... that's wrong? :winking_face:

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    • June 22, 2020 at 12:16 PM
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    • June 22, 2020 at 12:53 PM
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    You are The Grandioso Savier of my stolen soul ;)))))

    Will try just now!

    But!!!

    How 1/2/3 etc pins looks physically? I tested all three variants, shown on my photo. No any ping or meow...

    Question is: how X23 pins are numbered physically? This is the 4th question about it :winking_face: Just photo or pencil drawing? please, the Great Collective Brain...

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    • June 22, 2020 at 1:08 PM
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    They are numbered horizontally, you already know the first being 24V, https://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/ps/PS-43045-001.pdf page 20 onwards. What do you mean no ping or meow, did you enable them in WoV before testing them with the smartPad?

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    • June 22, 2020 at 1:27 PM
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    Of course! Tried both methods: by WV and by xml.

    Now i prepare HDD from naked 8.3.14 (i hacked the KUKA-flash, so the experiment must be fully clear). Several hours - will see :smiling_face:

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    • June 22, 2020 at 2:04 PM
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    stupid question again...

    if i link 8-9 on X23, the button between the 1st an 2nd pins on X23 must be binary switch!

    Isn't it?

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    • June 22, 2020 at 3:37 PM
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    Yes.

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    • June 22, 2020 at 3:40 PM
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    Will kill you if this is not a truth :))))

    Saint Tmuataketzeal - let it work :smiling_face:

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