R30ib Plus > S71200 PLC >TIA v15 Profinet communication setup procedure.

    Hi Guys,

    I'm in desperate need of some help from some people who have set up comms between a R30ib Plus robot controller and an s71200 PLC using TIA portal v15.

    I was testing the configuration yesterday and I couldn't get the robot to connect to the PLC. I could see it on the list of accessible devices and I was able to do an online detection of the hardware which finished successfully. However even after setting the IP address of the robot controller in TIA as well as the profinet name it was still throwing an error.

    The GSD file I was using is GSDML-V2.3-Fanuc-A05B2600R834V830-20140601. I have seen in other threads that I should be using v2.33?

    I really am lost on how to setup this connection.

    I have setup other Profinet IO Devices and none were this complicated. I simply had to install the GSD file, find the device in accessible devices and assign them a IP address as well as a profinet name. Then I would either manually add the hardware config or detect it automatically.

    I have the profinet I/O manual but its quite convoluted (130 Pages for a simple connection??). Do I still nedd to create a hardware config and upload it to the profinet card?

    I am also not sure why, but we recieved the card as shown in the attached pic. It doesn't seem to be an original siemens product but I can trace it back to a MOLEX website. Is the setup for this card different? or the GSD file different?

    On the robot TP side, do I need to detect devices and add configured devices? What is the setup procedure on that side of things?

    Another thing, There are 4 RJ45 plugs on the card, which one should I be using? depending where I plug it in obviously shows up either channel 1 or channel 2 when searching accessible devices.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Hello;

    If you are using Siemens card on Rj3iB Plus controller you must be follow Profinet Gen II manual. You can't use legacy GSDML file because generation 2 using as I-Device. The procedure explained in manual. Theorically you are prepare GSDML file with TIA portal, download configuration to card and use self prepared GSDML in CPU configuration. I guess Molex card configuration is different but I don't know how to do.


    Note: J709 PROFINET I/O G2 can’t coexist with options J930 PROFINET I/O or R834 Dual Chan. Profinet (Molex Variant).

    Edited once, last by M.Ozkan (May 18, 2019 at 12:38 PM).

    Quote from fluke


    Hello;

    If you are using Siemens card on Rj3iB Plus controller you must be follow Profinet Gen II manual. You can't use legacy GSDML file because generation 2 using as I-Device. The procedure explained in manual. Theorically you are prepare GSDML file with TIA portal, download configuration to card and use self prepared GSDML in CPU configuration. I guess Molex card configuration is different but I don't know how to do.


    Note: J709 PROFINET I/O G2 can’t coexist with options J930 PROFINET I/O or R834 Dual Chan. Profinet (Molex Variant).

    Thanks for that info. That's the thing, I don't know which is gen 2 and which isn't.

    There is a method in the manual where you have to use a program called profinet configuration tool to carry out a setup procedure on the profinet card on the robot. I basically want to know if this is necessary or not? Or do you think that my GSD file was simply the incorrect version for this card?

    Thats another thing, I don't know how to create a hardware config using TIA portal v15. Has anyone done this that can talk me through it? Including how to download it to the robot card if this is even possible?

    Your card seems Molex variant. Forget TIA portal configuration for GSD. It is only for Siemens cards.

    1- Do you have Dual Channel Profinet option on robot ( R834) ?
    2- Do you have manual for Dual Channel Profinet ?

    If answers is No for both, please contact your local Fanuc dealer and get it.

    On PC, You will need a software com Molex/Brad Communications called PFN-CT (ProfiNet Configuration Tool). This software comes bundled inside the robot option folder.

    https://www.robot-forum.com/robotforum/fan…profinet-23677/

    Edited once, last by M.Ozkan (May 20, 2019 at 11:42 PM).

    Quote from fluke


    Your card seems Molex variant. Forget TIA portal configuration for GSD. It is only for Siemens cards.

    1- Do you have Dual Channel Profinet option on robot ( R834) ?
    2- Do you have manual for Dual Channel Profinet ?

    If answers is No for both, please contact your local Fanuc dealer and get it.

    On PC, You will need a software com Molex/Brad Communications called PFN-CT (ProfiNet Configuration Tool). This software comes bundled inside the robot option folder.

    https://www.robot-forum.com/robotforum/fan…profinet-23677/

    1) It defintely is a dual channel card as I remember seeing channel 1 and channel 2 when viewing the Profinet I/O on the robot TP.
    Is there any other way to verify on the robot TP what card is installed and what software option is installed (I'm assuming R834 is a software version?)

    I think that is where the confusion arises. I think I do indeed have the Molex variant.

    2) I did get the Profinet configuration tool from Fanuc as well as this GSD file - GSDML-V2.3-Fanuc-A05B2600R834V830-20140601.
    I am not sure if this is the correct GSD file for this card though? and our Fanuc agents weren't even sure themselves.
    I would imagine that the GSD file I use is still quite important. With that said when I did the Hardware detection from TIA portal, it did seem to correctly identify the card that we we using 16 bytes out and 16 bytes in.

    I have tried to follow the steps as listed in the profinet IO manaul for setting up the card using the Profinet configuration tool, but when searching for the available hardware in one of the steps, all I could see was my own Laptops IP address and not the card. Do you think it could have been blocked by the windows firewall? I am running windows 10. Unfortunately my Firewall is controlled by our sys admin and I couldn't check if this was the case.

    If this is the profinet card from fanuc that plugs into the fanuc control cabinet follow these steps:

    Go to my portal and download the profinet devices software package.

    Extract it once downloaded and add the gsdml file to TIA. Note: there are multiple gsdml files in the extracted folder use the profinet manual provided by fanuc to select the appropriate one for your controller and use case. Most cases single chanel communication is the correct choice.
    Update the fanuc controller to the latest version.

    Create a device1.xml file and compress it to a zip file. See section 10 of the profinet manual on how to complete this step.
    If single channel communication is selected you can skip creating the other two files mentioned in the manual.

    Move the xml file onto a usb and plug it into the fanuc controller.

    Move the xml file over to the location defined in the manual.

    Cycle power to the controller.
    go to the profinet setup on the fanuc tp

    Select single or dual channel. Note if single channel select it doesn’t matter what port you plug the Ethernet cable into.

    press Other -> config to configure ip address.

    Return to settings page and change mode from stop to start

    Cycle power

    If the tp has an error on startup saying the firmware is needs to be updated. Run the pc program defined in the profinet manual. Do not press reset while the program is running. Once the program has started press Menu->user. Press 1 to update the firmware. Cycle power if requested.

    I think you got the wrong idea about what is single vs dual channel.

    The two additional files (mentioned in chapter 10) that you mention has nothing to do with single/dual channel functionality, but rather if the robot controller is to act as Profinet I/O-controller (Master) or Profinet I/O-device (Slave).

    Only when using the robot controller as Profinet I/O-controller do you need to create the other files (using Phoenix's "PLC Next" development tool).

    Also, there are different .gsdml-files for when using single or dual channel functionality (different software options in the robot controller -S523 (Single) and S536 (Dual)).

    And lastly, you can setup the profinet board so that you are acting as both I/O-controller and I/O-device without having to have the dual channel functionality.

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