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Resolver problem

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  • July 14, 2016 at 3:16 PM
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    • July 14, 2016 at 3:16 PM
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    Hi i was installing a resolver and i'didn't know how to set it up on the krc 4 .can any one help ??

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    • July 14, 2016 at 5:56 PM
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    Is this a KUKA resolver? How are you trying to connect it to the KRC4? Are you using ConveyorTech? What exactly are you trying to do with this resolver?

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    • July 15, 2016 at 12:38 AM
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    Yes it is a kuka resolver and i've conected it to the rdc and i'm using convoyertech but it is not mentionned in the doc how to make sure that its connected right or does it work

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    • July 15, 2016 at 3:06 AM
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    you have to do quite few things before it works...
    configure it in WoV, calibrate conveyor, connect sensor to fast measure input, create program using ConveyorTech module etc. everything is in the manual

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • July 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM
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    Wich manual convoyerech ? It didnt mention how to do this fast measumetn thing and im stuck in calibration i have a problem that i mentioned it in conv-msr topic

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    • July 15, 2016 at 12:59 PM
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    ConveyorTech doesn't have to use the fast-measurement inputs, IIRC, although using the normal inputs requires you to have more leeway for the time lag. Have you connected the Fast Measurement inputs? Once you have, it's mostly a matter of using $MEAS_PULSE[] with Interrupts for best reaction time.

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    • July 28, 2016 at 8:05 PM
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    hi can you please guide me through conecting this fast measurment inputs..i'm stuck :wallbash:i couldn't find any documentation neither for fast measurment inputs or how to configure the resolver with workvisual.thank you very much

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    • July 28, 2016 at 9:21 PM
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    hi can you please guide me through conecting this fast measurment inputs..i'm stuck :wallbash:i couldn't find any documentation neither for fast measurment inputs or how to configure the resolver with workvisual.thank you very much

    I guess you are talking about KRC4 controllers. You should be looking into electrical drawings of fast measurement inputs. I do not know which controller version are you using but you may have to look for X33 or X25 connectors depending on you controller version.

    For enabling fast measurements through Work Visual, you have to activate the controller in hardware tab and select it and then follow menu path: Editors>Additional Controller Settings>Fast Measurement Interfaces and then select the checkbox saying Enable Measurement Channels.

    Deploy the project.

    Thanks

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    • July 28, 2016 at 11:26 PM
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    i would recommend reviewing what you are asking. so far all we know is:
    a) KRC4
    b) conveyortech
    c) resolver

    you mentioned no version of either hardware or software (KSS, ConveyorTech).

    ConveyorTech comes with manual containing quite detailed description of all steps needed to setup resolver (section 6). What line in manual gives you trouble?

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • July 29, 2016 at 12:44 PM
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    HI i'm working on a krc 4 with 8,2 kss version ,i've connected the resolver to the RDC and also the sensor to the controller but when calibrating the conveyor i get an error (MDR: change of device conv1 status from error to initialized not permissible ) so i thought maybe the controller didn't recognize either the resolver or the sensor because i didn't know how to configurate fast measurement input and i don't know how to check the status of the resolver (recognized or not ) and when i've contacted kuka support and sent them the krcdiag they responded: when we have opened « KRC KPP0, CIB + SIB.wvs » we found out that the conveyor option is not activated and the resolver is not detected. try to install the .KOP of the coonvoyer tech on WoV.
    and since then i'm stuck
    sorry for the long paragraph
    thanks a lot for helping me

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    • July 29, 2016 at 5:30 PM
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    can you *please* try to put some ***details*** in your posts? :wallbash:

    saying "i have krc4" is same as saying "i drive ford". i can promise you - that much info will ***not*** help you get correct brake pads, or gaskets or whatever. you are asking for very specific help but you are not being specific.

    KSS8.2 comes in ***many***versions, do you mean 8.2.1 or 8.2.1SR or 8.2.18 or 8.2.26 or anything in between?
    same is with your Conveyor tech. what is the version that you have? also what WoV version... (detailed version numbers, please).

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • July 29, 2016 at 7:42 PM
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    Sorry i wasn't aware of that :smiling_face: all the refrences that i found are :kss :Version: KSS 8.2 SI V4 fr
    krc4 :Version: BA KR C4 GI V4 fr
    and the robot is kuka kr16-2

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    • July 29, 2016 at 8:46 PM
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    https://www.robot-forum.com/robotforum/kuk…rum/read-first/

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • August 26, 2016 at 11:38 AM
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    HELLO ,SORRY for the late response , i've attached my KRCDiag and in the folder screenshots u'll find the error that i've got during the resolver calibration and u'll have all my robot specifications in other folders ,password :KUKA ,THanks for helping me

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    KRCDiag_ENISO_2016-08-25T13_48_39.rar 9.79 MB – 32 Downloads
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    • August 26, 2016 at 11:06 PM
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    soooo...


    A) according to your KrcDiag.log:

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    13:48:39 Robot name: ENISO
    13:48:40 CPU Frequency:  2.89 GHz, RAM: 1656 MB
    13:48:40 KRC Version:  KR C, V8.2.22, Build 142
    13:48:40 KRC Options:
    13:48:40   Conveyor ,V5.1.0 ,Build 5
    13:48:40   EthernetKRL ,V2.2.0 ,Build 19
    13:48:40   ExpertTech ,V3.2.0 ,Build 6
    13:48:40   Gripper-&SpotTech ,V3.1.2 ,Build 12
    13:48:40   
    13:48:40   KRC4 Profibus-CP5614 ,V1.0.1 ,Build 6
    13:48:40   RemoteService ,V1.0.2 ,Build 10
    13:48:40   SafeOperation ,V3.1.2 ,Build 9
    13:48:40   UserTech ,V3.2.0 ,Build 8
    13:48:40 Active project:  2011020810000012000227352 - 3
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    so your KSS is 8.2.22 and your ConveyorTech is 5.1.0... now, was that so hard?

    B) Quick check in the ConveyorTech manual confirms that this version (5.1.x) is compatible with your KSS (8.2.x).

    C) Same manual also tells you proper commissioning procedure (5.1 Start-up overview):

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    1 Connect the required hardware. (>>> 5.2 "Connecting the hardware" Page 13)
       2 Install the ConveyorTech software. (>>> 6.2 "Installing or updating ConveyorTech" Page 15)
       3 Edit the configuration data (optional). (>>> 7.1 "Editing configuration data" Page 17)
       4 Calibrate the conveyor. (>>> 8.1 "Calibrating a LINEAR conveyor" Page 25) or (>>> 8.2 "Calibrating a CIRCULAR conveyor" Page 26)
       5 Check the conveyor distance (optional). (>>> 8.3 "Checking the conveyor distance" Page 27)
       6 Calibrate the workpiece on the conveyor (optional). (>>> 8.4 "Calibrating the workpiece on the conveyor" Page 27)

    All you have to do, follow the steps:

    1 Connect the required hardware.

    This means wiring resolver cable to RDC. Unfortunately manual does not mention it but it is VERY important that all shields are connected to housing of RDC box (contact through metal strain relief). Are you SURE this part is done? To which RDC port is your resolver connected (X7?).

    2 Install the ConveyorTech software. (>>> 6.2 "Installing or updating ConveyorTech" Page 15)

    According to your KrcDiag, software is installed. DONE!

    3 Edit the configuration data (optional). (>>> 7.1 "Editing configuration data" Page 17)

    This step has several sub-steps and requires configuring several files:
    i) MOTIONDRV.INI, done

    ii) MDRCONVEYOR.INI, according to log files you have done this few times (and deleted old entries). I checked file content it is NOT matching manual.
    Manual calls for "TRACE_INDEX=0" while you use "TRACK_INDEX=0". Notice spelling difference.

    iii) $CONFIG.DAT;
    INT Z_CONV_AMOUNT=1; ok
    BASE_NAME[11,]="CONV1" ok
    MACHINE_DEF[11]={NAME[] "CONV1",COOP_KRC_INDEX 0,PARENT[] " ",ROOT {X 0.0,Y 0.0,Z 0.0,A 0.0,B 0.0,C 0.0},MECH_TYPE #CONVEYOR,GEOMETRY[] " "}; ok
    INT Z_CONV_TIMER_NBR=1; possibly ok, did't check if anything else is using timer 1. actually reset in Conv_follow.src is hardcoded to timer1 which is clearly not right. this works when using default timer but would be an issue if user selects different one. i guess this line should be $TIMER[Z_CONV_TIMER_NBR]=0 instead $TIMER[1]=0

    etc. (i am tired, this is your job)


    4 Calibrate the conveyor. (>>> 8.1 "Calibrating a LINEAR conveyor" Page 25) or (>>> 8.2 "Calibrating a CIRCULAR conveyor" Page 26)

    You need to choose calibration procedure based on geometry of your conveyor (linear or circular)....

    5 Check the conveyor distance (optional). (>>> 8.3 "Checking the conveyor distance" Page 27)

    Optional... (but good test)

    6 Calibrate the workpiece on the conveyor (optional).

    Optional....

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • August 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM
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    panic mode :THX a lot for all the efford
    1)i've read the manual and it says that the two version( KSS and convoyertech )are compatible
    2)i've attached pictures of the robot ,RDC ,the inside of the controller....it looks like we don't have fast measurment inputs >>>what to do then ??
    3)i can't really figure out this line a''ctually reset in Conv_follow.src is hardcoded to timer1 which is clearly not right. this works when using default timer but would be an issue if user selects different one. i guess this line should be $TIMER[Z_CONV_TIMER_NBR]=0 instead $TIMER[1]=0''
    4)i'm stuck at callibration step with the problem that figures in screenshots in the krcDiag
    5)i'm cheking out all the configuration files

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    • August 29, 2016 at 12:33 PM
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    I figured out that in CFCore.XML in the directory C:\KRC\Roboter\Config\User\Common\Mada. i don't have these lines
    <!-- Achse 7 als Position Tracker -->
    <Axis Passive=“true“>
    <Control>
    <Controller ID="7" />
    </Control>
    <WaggonDriverInterfaces>
    <IPos Index="2" Channel="6" />
    </WaggonDriverInterfaces>
    </Axis>
    so i've added it then the robot lost his axes calibration so had to backup the controller and start from scratch ..
    so ???

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    • August 29, 2016 at 3:08 PM
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    3)i can't really figure out this line "actually reset in Conv_follow.src is hardcoded to timer1 which is clearly not right. this works when using default timer but would be an issue if user selects different one. i guess this line should be $TIMER[Z_CONV_TIMER_NBR]=0 instead $TIMER[1]=0''

    then don't worry about it...

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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    • September 1, 2016 at 5:17 PM
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    HI i've connected my Synchronization switch to the fast measurment input on the x33 and it's working then i've enabled the fast measurment option with WoV BUT when i wanted to monitor the switch on the smart pad using MEAS_PULSE first of all it wasn't already there in the name field the when i've wrote it down and pressed UPDATE it says OBJEct NOT avaible can you help me please ??

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    • September 1, 2016 at 5:21 PM
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    that is an array... you have to use square brackets after variable name. if you specify index, it will show you one element only but without index value (square brackets empty) you will see all array elements.

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

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