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Removing Group 3 from RJ3iC Controller

  • bgarrison
  • August 25, 2014 at 10:18 PM
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    • August 25, 2014 at 10:18 PM
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    I am in the process of re-purposing a robot that has 2 external axes, Group 2 and Group 3. I wish to remove Group 3. I have disconnected the motor, re-configured the paramters in maintenance mode and removed group 3 so it does not exist. I now have a SRVO-021 - SRDY OFF (Group 2: Axis 1) alarm when I attempt to servo on. Jumpered out the door switch. I am assuming I am missing some paramter setting or a jumper. This system has 2 local stop modules, and I have removed the one for group 3. I see the contactor pull in for just a second before the alarm occurs.

    I have seen similar subjects in the forum for adding an external axis, but I have not seen one that answers this particular problem with removing a group.

    Please help.
    :help:

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    • August 25, 2014 at 10:30 PM
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    Did you mask out your axis order in the $SCR GROUP for what you removed

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    • August 25, 2014 at 11:59 PM
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    $ SCR_GRP shows 1 and 2. $ SCR.NUM_GROUP set to 2, with $ SCR.NUM_TOT_AXS set to 7. All seems correct, unless I misunderstand your question.

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    • August 26, 2014 at 2:14 AM
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    Did you remove the brake cables connected to the servo amplifier

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    • August 26, 2014 at 3:49 AM
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    You may have an issue with the configuration. There are several ways these groups could have been wired. If you have an image backup from before you removed the third motion group you can restore it and then go to the $ SCR_GRP 3 and under the axis order enter 0 for the first axis, if there was only one axis on group three. You will need to cycle power, reset the pulse coders and cycle power again. At this point the software will not "see" group 3 anymore. You would have to have all of the hardware back in the controller. And then deal with your local stop for group three, probably just jumper it out. The brake cable should not be causing any issue relating to this alarm.

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    • August 26, 2014 at 5:30 AM
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    Brake cables are connected to the local stop module.

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    • August 26, 2014 at 5:49 PM
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    You may have an issue with the configuration. There are several ways these groups could have been wired. If you have an image backup from before you removed the third motion group you can restore it and then go to the $ SCR_GRP 3 and under the axis order enter 0 for the first axis, if there was only one axis on group three. You will need to cycle power, reset the pulse coders and cycle power again. At this point the software will not "see" group 3 anymore. You would have to have all of the hardware back in the controller. And then deal with your local stop for group three, probably just jumper it out. The brake cable should not be causing any issue relating to this alarm.

    Performed an INIT START on the system with the original software. Have Group 1 and Group 2. Do not see group 3. I am still having SRVO-021 alarm Group 2: Axis 1. I will attempt your suggestion, but the goal is to have the hardware removed from the system.

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    • August 26, 2014 at 8:14 PM
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    Your group 2 and 3 may be sharing one dual channel amplifier.
    The easy solution is to keep the group 3 motor hooked and put it at a safe place.

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    • August 27, 2014 at 2:33 PM
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    Yeah I hear you. But you may not be able do that.

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    • August 27, 2014 at 3:22 PM
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    Your group 2 and 3 may be sharing one dual channel amplifier.
    The easy solution is to keep the group 3 motor hooked and put it at a safe place.

    This is what I ended up with as the solution. Was hoping to save the motor and local stop as spare parts.

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    • August 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM
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    You can, if you do what I recommend, you don't need the motor connected. Only the amplifier.

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    • August 27, 2014 at 4:39 PM
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    This is what I ended up with as the solution. Was hoping to save the motor and local stop as spare parts.


    What you are doing is easy but you can use only one amplifier in a dual channel by setting variables.
    I did it years ago but forgot the exact settings.
    I thought they were $SCR.$ATR and $SCR.$ATTRIB. You may try Racermike123's procedure first.
    Then you can disable the Local Stop by setting $LS_IOPORT [x]$MO_GRP_NUM to zero. May be you do not even need to do it because you do not have group 3 any more.

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