Copying .PC files

The name of the call program should be displayed, so what is the name of the program?

Unfortunatly this is a problem with Karel. If you don't get the copies of the PC and KL files you could be in trouble.
What machine was the back up from and can you get the files from your integrator?
I don't program with Karel so I really can't offer you any real help.

A FILE > Backup All should save all your KAREL PC files just fine. My guess is it was an issue with the ROBOGUIDE serialization from backup process. You can check this by simply verifying the PC files exist in the backup you took from the physical robot.

If there is an issue with ROBOGUIDE, you may just have to manually load the PC files after your workcell is created as an extra step.

You cannot create a ROBOGUIDE workcell from an image backup, and I'm also fairly certain you can't do an image backup restore in ROBOGUIDE either.

Sorry to say it you can't back these files up. you need to get them from whoever created them.
And yes you can create a simulation from an image file. I am not sure what versions support this but I know 8.0 does.

I've never had a problem backing up the KAREL translated binary PC files. The .KL source files will generally not be present on the robot, and I'm pretty sure you can't upload them to MD:, so they will not come down in a file backup.

Creating a simulation from an image must be a new feature... glad to hear it's been added.

I guess I could be wrong. Let me say it like this. I have never been able to backup these types of files. There may be certian software versions and different configurstions where you may be able to. If you can, please share your specific configs so we can learn something

From my experience, when a karel program is loaded (different from copied), it goes into the robots operating memory in a sort of inflated manner. What i'm trying to say is that the file doesn't get copied into , say, FR:, MD: RD: etc...it gets loaded into the operating memory portion of the robot. The .vr file is created at the time you run the .PC program. This 'is' an actual file that can be copied, but the .pc file may have never been copied, only loaded. If you don't have the .KL source file, then this program can never be modified or recreated into a PC file. If you don't have a physical copy of the PC file, then you never will get it from the robot. As standard practice, we ALWAYS keep a local copy of the .PC and corresponding .KL file on the robot. We feel that unless it was a proprietary , turn-key project, and if the customer paid for the software engineering time..its theirs and they can do what they need to with it.

Thanks Chipprogr

You can get all the*.PC files from the robot. You just need to have an image backup. FROM Image backup is a just an archive which can be unziped.

1. Take an image backup

2. All FROM files rename like:

FROM00.IMG -> FROM.7z.001

FROM01.IMG -> FROM.7z.002

and so on.

3. You can now unzip the FROM and inside you will find the directory OS\FRS\ here you can find all the *.PC files

Yet I didn't discovered how to get into SRAM files because this is not an archive. If somebody found a way I would appreciate if he could share the knwoledge.

If you want to load the PC into FRS of a robot you can create a command file:

example: LOAD_MYPCFILE.CM

FRCLRPR

FRCOPY .\DIR_WHERE_PC_FILE_IS\MYPCFILE.PC frs:MYPCFILE.pc

PCLOAD FRS:MYPCFILE

PRINT "MYPCFILE file is loaded"

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You can get all the*.PC files from the robot. You just need to have an image backup. FROM Image backup is a just an archive which can be unziped.

1. Take an image backup

2. All FROM files rename like:

FROM00.IMG -> FROM.7z.001

FROM01.IMG -> FROM.7z.002

and so on.

3. You can now unzip the FROM and inside you will find the directory OS\FRS\ here you can find all the *.PC files

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Which program did you use to unzip the files?

The FROMxx.IMG aren't an archive. They are just a 1:1 image of the robot internal FROM that's arranged like a harddisk. You can copy all those files to one great file. Then mount it on a linux system as FAT drive, or you can use an imager to write it to an usb stick.

May be you used an unzipper that can handle images

Looks like 7zip, judging by the extension. Its pretty powerful.

Nope, tried with 7zip (my highly preferred zipper, and nearly the only one I use) , doesn't work. But as said, handling it as drive image works. A very long time ago someone described that already here in the forum.