1. Home
    1. Dashboard
    2. Search
  2. Forum
    1. Unresolved Threads
    2. Members
      1. Recent Activities
      2. Users Online
      3. Team Members
      4. Search Members
      5. Trophys
  3. Articles
  4. Blog
  5. Videos
  6. Jobs
  7. Shop
    1. Orders
  • Login or register
  • Search
This Thread
  • Everywhere
  • This Thread
  • This Forum
  • Articles
  • Pages
  • Forum
  • Blog Articles
  • Products
  • More Options
  1. Robotforum - Support and discussion community for industrial robots and cobots
  2. Forum
  3. Industrial Robot Support and Discussion Center
  4. KUKA Robot Forum
Your browser does not support videos RoboDK Software for simulation and programming
Visit our Mainsponsor
IRBCAM
Robotics Channel
Robotics Training
Advertise in robotics
Sponsored Ads

EMt connector question

  • happytriger2000
  • December 18, 2012 at 3:20 AM
  • Thread is Resolved
  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 18, 2012 at 3:20 AM
    • #1

    Hi,
    I have an EMT set: [url=http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/h…trial/EMT/2.jpg,]http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/h…trial/EMT/2.jpg,[/url] and I want to master KR2210 S C2 but the X32 connector is different to the connector of the cable: [url=http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/h…trial/EMT/2.jpg,]http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/h…trial/EMT/2.jpg,[/url] is there an adapter for this?

    thanks

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 18, 2012 at 6:54 AM
    • #2

    Somehow the link was not working, have a look at the picture below:

    Edited once, last by happytriger2000 (July 13, 2014 at 6:10 AM).

  • RAS-Skordos GR
    Reactions Received
    2
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    147
    • December 18, 2012 at 8:15 AM
    • #3

    Hello,

    the KUKA robots in general have two sorts of plugs. One like the one you show on the EMT's cable (older version) and one like the photo you posted from the back of the robot (newer). For that reason, inside the EMT set there was an adapter for swapping from the older to the newer as needed.
    How old is your set? Did you buy it new or used? Maybe the adapter is already screwed on the cable and you missed it. It is only a small cylinder in the diameter of the plug.

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 18, 2012 at 1:15 PM
    • #4

    Hi RAS-Skordos GR,
    I bought this used EMT last year for my KRC1 and now I have a newer KR210 s2000 KRC2 (2004) installed and need mastering.
    "Maybe the adapter is already screwed on the cable and you missed it"

    Will check the connector tomorrow,


    thanks

  • RAS-Skordos GR
    Reactions Received
    2
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    147
    • December 18, 2012 at 3:45 PM
    • #5

    Hello,

    for some reason I cannot upload photos to this forum....., but anyways I found a photo of the EMT in this link
    http://www.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=…9086534&lang=En

    If you look in front of the probe, there is a small cylinder. This bit is the adapter that changes the plug to the older version. Could it be that this bit is already connected on your set and that you haven't noticed?

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 19, 2012 at 3:03 AM
    • #6

    To show your pictures you need to upload your selected images to a Image hosting service, for eg. Imageshack, photobucket,..so on, once uploaded you wil get this:

    copy the "IMG code" and paste it to your massage board:


    done!!
    Tops: when uploading pictures I usually reduce it to 50% of its original size for faster upload.

    I don't remember If I have that cylinder, I will check it soon.
    Someone advise me to replace the X32 to this:


    and I would like to know if its ok to do so?, I don't want any smoke coming out of the board.

    Some picture I took inside of the KR2210 X02 box:


    Edited once, last by happytriger2000 (July 13, 2014 at 6:15 AM).

  • RAS-Skordos GR
    Reactions Received
    2
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    147
    • December 19, 2012 at 10:28 AM
    • #7

    Thanks very much for the tips regarding the photo upload. The integrated uploader does not work for me for some reason. It just stands there looking at me.

    As for the plug. I don't know if it will work, I have never used it. However if someone suggested it and if it probably comes from KUKA, it will. You could always check the pinout with a multimeter (continuity, unplugged on both sides). It is only four cables.

  • SkyeFire
    Reactions Received
    1,060
    Trophies
    12
    Posts
    9,456
    • December 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM
    • #8

    Honestly, the best approach would probably be to contact KUKA and inform them that you need to connect an old-style EMT to a newer robot. They make an adapter for it, and it should not be very expensive. New EMTs all come with that adapter.

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 21, 2012 at 9:50 AM
    • #9

    Hello again,
    I have checked the 4 pins and 2 of them(pin 2 and 4) for sure are 24V and Gnd:


    and indeed the pin arrangement are the same as KRC1 pin header:

    Edited once, last by happytriger2000 (July 13, 2014 at 6:17 AM).

  • RAS-Skordos GR
    Reactions Received
    2
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    147
    • December 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM
    • #10

    Hello,

    I also measured the adaptor for you....the connection is one to one (no cross cabling; 1->1, 2->2, 3->3, 4->4).
    It looks pretty straightforward to me.

    As for the info, the two of the four cables are 24V and GND. The other two form a binary code of the status of the pin:
    0 0 Fault
    0 1 Pin moving out of probe
    1 0 Pin moving into probe
    1 1 Stationary

    We are using the EMT and a microPLC in order to calibrate Motomans, Fanucs and Mits as they cannot do it by themselves! :winking_face: :grinning_squinting_face:

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 21, 2012 at 2:02 PM
    • #11

    Kool, I'm going to proceed changing the plug to this:

    andl use the old EMT for Mastering, no adapter needed.

  • RAS-Skordos GR
    Reactions Received
    2
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    147
    • December 21, 2012 at 2:51 PM
    • #12

    Please report back so that everyone benefits from that.

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 22, 2012 at 5:21 AM
    • #13

    Pulled out the KRC1 5 pin socket:

    then proceed to pull out KRC2 7 pin socket:

    Install the KRC1 5 pin socket to KRC2 X02 box, just plug the black header 4 pin male header:

    http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/happytrig…header.jpg.html



    Anyone familiar with this:

    Edited once, last by happytriger2000 (July 13, 2014 at 6:28 AM).

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • December 22, 2012 at 7:52 AM
    • #14

    About the "1358-KCP-selection required" press 'windows selection key', (download the KSS pdf here: ftp://93.81.250.72/Upload/KUKA/KR…rofessional.pdf) page 31, till the the left window is highlighted then proceed mastering by pressing 'Master' tab at the bottom of the window.

    Result:

    Yes it does work!!

    External Content vimeo.com
    Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.
    Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.

  • leoNg
    Guest
    • February 14, 2014 at 1:38 AM
    • #15

    Happytriger2000,
    i have the same issue. could you tell me where can i get an adaptor?

    Kuka charges 120 USD for this adaptor...

  • happytriger2000
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    327
    • February 14, 2014 at 1:52 AM
    • #16

    Hi Leo,
    I replied your email, please check.
    Exchange the X32 sockets between KRC1 and Krc2, then you can use it with your EMT set (old type).

  • eusty
    Reactions Received
    6
    Trophies
    4
    Posts
    721
    • February 14, 2014 at 10:48 AM
    • #17

    We had to get one when they bought out the KRC2 and we had an old KRC1 mastering tool.

    A lot easier than changing sockets :smiling_face:

    Edited once, last by eusty (February 14, 2014 at 3:03 PM).

  • cezex
    Reactions Received
    1
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    123
    • February 14, 2014 at 1:21 PM
    • #18

    Cute! So it's possible to build DIY "emt"! Which pin is GND, +24v and signal? PLz? And levels of signal? TTL?

    Regads
    Cez

    Quote from RAS-Skordos GR


    Hello,

    I also measured the adaptor for you....the connection is one to one (no cross cabling; 1->1, 2->2, 3->3, 4->4).
    It looks pretty straightforward to me.

    As for the info, the two of the four cables are 24V and GND. The other two form a binary code of the status of the pin:
    0 0 Fault
    0 1 Pin moving out of probe
    1 0 Pin moving into probe
    1 1 Stationary

    We are using the EMT and a microPLC in order to calibrate Motomans, Fanucs and Mits as they cannot do it by themselves! :winking_face: :grinning_squinting_face:

    Display More
  • widelec
    Reactions Received
    1
    Trophies
    3
    Posts
    81
    • December 7, 2015 at 9:35 PM
    • #19

    Refresh topic
    And so I bought a calibrator with a cable from KRC1 well and I was looking I have one robot from the controlling KRC1 and two of krc2 and here nasunoł was a problem was first contacts with KUKA offered to exchange slots in krc2 on the slot of the old type but it turned out that already do not sell these sockets, well, I started to look for and the end result (before buying shifted the seat of KRC1 on krc2 and running normally):


    lemo ERA.2E.305.CLL
    BRE.0K.200.NAS
    LUMBERG 3114 04 (4 pin)

    Images

    • BRE0K200NAS.jpg
      • 8.4 kB
      • 312 × 245
      • 10
    • LUMBERG311404(4 pin).jpg
      • 565.7 kB
      • 3,264 × 2,448
      • 9

    Files

    lemoERA2E305CLL.PNG 52.71 kB – 73 Downloads lemoERA2E305CLL.PNG_thumb 31.73 kB – 54 Downloads BRE0K200NAS.jpg_thumb 15.62 kB – 51 Downloads LUMBERG311404(4 pin).jpg_thumb 27.61 kB – 50 Downloads

    Edited once, last by widelec (December 7, 2015 at 9:44 PM).

  • panic mode
    Reactions Received
    1,294
    Trophies
    11
    Posts
    13,126
    • December 7, 2015 at 11:38 PM
    • #20

    305 cannot be right... Lemo connectors used on EMT are 4-pin:

    Images

    • EMT top view.png
      • 463.19 kB
      • 578 × 559
      • 13

    Files

    EMT top view.png_thumb 40.18 kB – 55 Downloads

    1) read pinned topic: READ FIRST...

    2) if you have an issue with robot, post question in the correct forum section... do NOT contact me directly

    3) read 1 and 2

Advertising from our partners

IRBCAM
Robotics Channel
Robotics Training
Advertise in robotics
Advertise in Robotics
Advertise in Robotics

Job Postings

  • Anyware Robotics is hiring!

    yzhou377 February 23, 2025 at 4:54 AM
  • How to see your Job Posting (search or recruit) here in Robot-Forum.com

    Werner Hampel November 18, 2021 at 3:44 PM
Your browser does not support videos RoboDK Software for simulation and programming

Tag Cloud

  • abb
  • Backup
  • calibration
  • Communication
  • CRX
  • DCS
  • dx100
  • dx200
  • error
  • Ethernet
  • Ethernet IP
  • external axis
  • Fanuc
  • help
  • hmi
  • I/O
  • irc5
  • IRVIsion
  • karel
  • kawasaki
  • KRC2
  • KRC4
  • KRC 4
  • KRL
  • KUKA
  • motoman
  • Offset
  • PLC
  • PROFINET
  • Program
  • Programming
  • RAPID
  • robodk
  • roboguide
  • robot
  • robotstudio
  • RSI
  • safety
  • Siemens
  • simulation
  • SPEED
  • staubli
  • tcp
  • TCP/IP
  • teach pendant
  • vision
  • Welding
  • workvisual
  • yaskawa
  • YRC1000

Thread Tag Cloud

  • abb
  • Backup
  • calibration
  • Communication
  • CRX
  • DCS
  • dx100
  • dx200
  • error
  • Ethernet
  • Ethernet IP
  • external axis
  • Fanuc
  • help
  • hmi
  • I/O
  • irc5
  • IRVIsion
  • karel
  • kawasaki
  • KRC2
  • KRC4
  • KRC 4
  • KRL
  • KUKA
  • motoman
  • Offset
  • PLC
  • PROFINET
  • Program
  • Programming
  • RAPID
  • robodk
  • roboguide
  • robot
  • robotstudio
  • RSI
  • safety
  • Siemens
  • simulation
  • SPEED
  • staubli
  • tcp
  • TCP/IP
  • teach pendant
  • vision
  • Welding
  • workvisual
  • yaskawa
  • YRC1000
  1. Privacy Policy
  2. Legal Notice
Powered by WoltLab Suite™
As a registered Member:
* You will see no Google advertising
* You can translate posts into your local language
* You can ask questions or help the community with your knowledge
* You can thank the authors for their help
* You can receive notifications of replies or new topics on request
* We do not sell your data - we promise

JOIN OUR GREAT ROBOTICS COMMUNITY.
Don’t have an account yet? Register yourself now and be a part of our community!
Register Yourself Lost Password
Robotforum - Support and discussion community for industrial robots and cobots in the WSC-Connect App on Google Play
Robotforum - Support and discussion community for industrial robots and cobots in the WSC-Connect App on the App Store
Download