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September 21, 2016, 03:48:39 PM
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The I stays red, no contactor heard..
The design is a pleasure

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September 21, 2016, 04:17:49 PM
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On safe operation KRC2s drives on circuit has two main contactors.
One is directly on Power Module (KPS600) the other somewhere on a left side inside cabinet.
Additional  wires are running to KPS to enable that functionality.
I believe that  you will need to jumper that.

K1 is main contact that enables drives power.
K1.1 on a left side is secondary one (safety -> dual circuit)

G1/X123 on a KPS has a cable running to K1.1.
Not sure what makes a KPS using it or not but a regular KRC2s don't have K1.1.
If you have a regular KRC2 you can compare the wiring.

September 21, 2016, 04:51:28 PM
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sjx



Do you have tried switching in Auto-Mode and Motors on for testing?

ESC-Diagnostics now everything ok?

September 21, 2016, 05:01:24 PM
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vvelikov


Yes, tried the Auto mode, same result.
On the ESC diagnostics all seems fine, will post the screen tomorrow.

September 21, 2016, 05:03:08 PM
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on your X11 connector on a photo in a post Long times ago has no bridges on 7-8 and 25 -26.
Can exactly be your Problem. nuued for death handle works

@kr16_2: the last KRC2ed05 Standard models  had also 2 power connectors.

September 21, 2016, 05:14:24 PM
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You are correct but I don't think 5.2 software can handle this.
Is this KRC2ed05 ?
I lost track of all this versions and differences :)


September 21, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
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The 7-8 and 25-26 are jumpered.
The KSS version installed is 5.6.9
The robot is KRC2 ed 05

It is now with ESC Tech board and RDW 2.0 - standard one

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September 21, 2016, 06:00:53 PM
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kr16_2


No messages on a pendant ?

September 21, 2016, 06:07:53 PM
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vvelikov


No, just: Drives contactor off

September 21, 2016, 06:23:27 PM
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kr16_2


On X11 pins 6 and 24 needs to be jumped (external enabling switch for drives enable)
Just like the X11 wiring is showing on this page but actual jumpers not a push button.

Also you need a jumper between 41 and 42.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 06:26:14 PM by kr16_2 »

September 21, 2016, 06:36:58 PM
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Here i am attaching the photo of the jumpering. Don't have the 6-24 one but 41-42 are connected.
Thanks for the help! That is giving me hope for tomorrow - may be i will move the ro ot finally ;)

September 21, 2016, 07:12:20 PM
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Hmm no photo? but 6 and 24 definitely needs 24v output A and B.
This is for additional "deadman" in the circuit. If its open you will never get drives and probably no message either.

September 21, 2016, 07:14:59 PM
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September 21, 2016, 07:28:18 PM
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kr16_2


That looks OK 5->6 and 23 -> 24
So they are jumped.

These safety inputs with strange German names  :icon_smile: and letters A and B expects voltage from two different sources.
"Testausgang" A and B are outputs with the voltage.

So for example inputs NOT HALT A and  NOT HALT B (ext. estop) expects voltage from Testausgang A and B.

Not sure what else you can look for.

Maybe track 480 circuit in the cabinet and make sure there is no servo disconnect somewhere?
GM and Ford loves to install some surprises like that.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 07:32:40 PM by kr16_2 »

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September 22, 2016, 08:23:58 AM
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Hi everyone!
Just to confirm - the robot is moving now :) case solved!
The problem was in the jumpering of X11 - loose connection on the back side - one of the pins wasn't contacting properly

Thank you so so so much for the help! That was exhausting experience ;)
 :cheer: :beerchug: :bravo: :respect:

Celebration time :)

September 22, 2016, 12:19:35 PM
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kr16_2


Think twice about some of these jumpers.

Lack of External E-stop and Safety Gate leads to...Robot Deaths :)

Good Luck :)

September 22, 2016, 02:32:17 PM
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Robot-CNC


Good news.
What diagram was good one for X11?

September 22, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
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the one at the previous page - last one i posted with a photo

September 22, 2016, 05:10:48 PM
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