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November 27, 2012, 01:32:57 PM
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flatcurve


It's hard to find free manuals. You can still order anything dating back to the old RJ controller just by calling up the hotline. Expect to pay at least $300 for it though.

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October 16, 2013, 02:08:42 PM
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luky168


narrow-minded Fanuc!!!

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January 07, 2014, 05:38:59 PM
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Racermike123


I worked for Fanuc for years. It is true that they cater to the big customers, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, and then the American Manufacturers. If you are a small integrator or have only purchased one or two units, then the support you get from Fanuc will be poor.
In 2008, 2009 Fanuc started to enforce their license policy due to a loss of revenue. Something I disagreed with completely.

May 28, 2014, 01:52:55 AM
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I teach FANUC and MOTOMAN  programming and virtually none of the techs that come through our program have ever seen, nor do they know where the manuals are that came with their robots.  Many of them tell me that the integrators keep them.  It's a travesty really!  Nothing more frustrating that having to call the manufacturer when you know very well that the answers are right there in a manual somewhere. 

July 02, 2015, 12:47:51 AM
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Jaycephus


I know that Fanuc does this to keep information out of the hands of non-integrators, and competitors. They may believe that disseminating this info hurts their bottom line, but that is stupidly wrong. But they aren't unique in that error. Nintendo also takes this approach with YouTube videos of any and all Nintendo game-play. Just trying to show how fun a Nintendo game is with a YT video will get you a copy-right flag. Doing a positive review of the game? Copy-right infringement. Well, not 'legally' in the US, due to fair-use laws, but via YouTube rules, the claim can be made by Nintendo, and it only takes a few of these flags to get your channel taken down by YT. So Fanuc is hardly unique in going overboard to the obvious detriment of their own product.

Here is the license agreement on the Fanuc integrator and customer site (CRC) when you go to the eDocs section:

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In consideration for access to FANUC America's product information, I acknowledge and agree to comply with any and all local, state, federal, provincial, territory or commonwealth laws, rules, regulations, orders, conventions, ordinances and standards of the country(ies) of origin and destination that relate to importation, exportation and licensing or that relate to intellectual property rights, including trade secrets, patents, trademarks and copyrights of FANUC America; to treat all such products as the confidential and proprietary property of FANUC America; and further acknowledge that dissemination to third parties is strictly prohibited by FANUC America.

I'm not sure, but that could be read in such a way that stuff I read in these manuals cannot be spoken of or written about on these forums.

Not that the manuals are all that good. It's not that their wrong, but critical information might be in the Software Installation manual, which you never thought to read, since you are trying to use Handling Tool, not install software. And you have to save them off so that you can properly search them (or do an "open in new tab" to break the pdf out of its frame so that browser search will work on the pdf itself. BUT a large manual can be broken up into more than 10 or 20 PDFs, so a global search requires you to go through them all, or save them off and weld them back into one manual. Fanuc's global search works sometimes, maybe, and definitely fails sometimes.)

Anyway, I've felt like a wizard who's amassed a lot of Secret Knowledge for a couple of decades now, due to the difficulty or impossibility of finding the answer to something critical in a robot manufacturer's shipped paper manuals, and due to, in Fanuc's case (and Adept's in my past experience), to how needle-like the critical piece of information is in Fanuc's huge collection of individual PDF hay-stacks, and also due to the lock-down of information even though we live in the internet age. (I just had the experience of looking through the actual robot system variables, not finding a particular var listed in the manual of system variables (common occurrence), and also not finding that var in a google search.)
- Jay

August 21, 2016, 11:59:29 PM
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mortoch


We received the same crap. We bought like 20 used GM fanucs. We needed support and were told basically the same thing, 10,000$ or forget it.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2016, 12:33:14 AM by mortoch »

November 26, 2017, 03:40:28 PM
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QuentinT


For anyone annoyed by Fanuc's CD manuals that are HTML format instead of PDF. 

In case it hasn't already been covered in the 4 previous pages, you can still extract the PDF manuals from these CDs.  I did so last week and now have all of the software, electrical, and mechanical manuals in PDF form.  All you have to do is insert the CD, and instead of letting it auto-run just go into windows explorer and search the CD for .PDF extension.
It's not difficult to find them manually either.  Once you see the hierarchy of everything in the .html page, the directory structure on the CD makes sense. 

It was well worth the 30 minutes it took to extract these PDF files versus trying sift through the .html version, or even worse, using their slow CRC site. 


If anyone is interested in taking notes on their PDF copies, you will notice that the PDF files are locked.  Unlocking them is as simple as running them through one of the many free online "PDF Unlocker" websites.  If you find a decent website, it will even maintain all of the hyperlinks within the manual so the table of contents still works.  Once the PDF is unlocked you're free to comment and highlight the PDF and save it using the free Adobe Reader

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March 28, 2018, 04:15:16 AM
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Shre007


HI Everyone.

I am new to Fanuc Programming. I am looking for Karel or TP Programming manuals or any important manuals.

request to send files or links to  my mail ID arjun.palusa@gmail.com

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in Advance.

September 05, 2018, 12:49:13 PM
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aaddooll


I think there did not behave well. For example, I was looking for a training course for the robot program, but I did not even find it in fanuc


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October 08, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
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REMfg


Checked with fanuc and they no longer support or have manuals available for the RJ3 or the S430iF; now what?

October 14, 2018, 04:13:40 AM
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Jwise


unauthorized distribution [/i]

Ctrl+shift+F in adobe brings up a search box that you can search a keyword in all pdf’s in a chosen folder.  Point it at a folder and enter a keyword, Bob is everyone’s uncle. 


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