Misterious KUKA

[jens]

Hi there.
I am wondering if any of you could recognise what kind of KUKA is the one I'm showing on the attached images.
It´s a KUKA (that´s the easy part) I guess that might be a 125 or similar... The id plate is ilegible.
It has no controller.
My doubt is that if it is worth (if the arm is fine) to try to get a 2nd hand controller.
If so, what kind would be suitable... if anybody could recognise the model shown.
The robot actually has a handling claw an the claw controller on top of 3rd axis that will be removed.

 Thanks a lot.
 Jens

PD: sorry for the quality of the pics... old mobile

[mechrob]

Hi,

This is an old IR760/120. You will need a KR C32 controller (RC30/51).

Good luck with your search! I guess it won't be easy to find a controller like this...

[RAS-Skordos GR]

Yep...

agree with mechrob.

However, I wouldn't worry so much about the controller. I recon, finding the software for this machine would be the most difficult part.

[jens]

Hi,

Thanks a lot for the replies.

Next to the robot there are a couple of RC 30/52 cabinets. They might belong to other smaller Kukas.

I am wondering whether it would be possible to connect the RC30/52 to the IR760/120
I guess that won't be possible... the servo drivers are probably not capable of driving the IR760/120 servo motors.

If  the assembling of the IR760/120 with RC30/52 was possible... The software would be still a problem?

Thanks.

Jens

[RAS-Skordos GR]

Hello,

hmmm...they might fit.
Can you pass me the S/Ns of the controllers and the arms?
I will answer both your questions (fit and software).

Best regards

[jens]

Thanks RAS,

I will, but I´ve to wait until week of 5th April... the workshop where they're stored is closed until then.

Regards.

   Jens

[RAS-Skordos GR]

OK, no prob,

but why are they closed? Are they Christian Orthodoxes? Orthodoxes have Eastern this week, so this could be a reason why...

[jens]

Hi Ras,

Is just that in Spain there is a massive bank holiday during Easter, from tomorrow to Sunday... so people take a holiday until then.

Best regards

[jens]

Hi there,

Sorry for the long delay....

References I could read from the arm and the cabinets RC 30/52
The ID plate of the robot was erased-scratched and rusted.... so I coud not read much...

I also attach a couple of pics...
Thanks a lot in advance for your time and help.




ROBOT ID PLATE
=========================
TYPE ?2.0
YEAR 1995 (1996?) (1998?)
SERIAL NUMBER 63916
SERIAL NUMBER 391.980
1800


BOTTOM MOTOR PLATE
========================
AC SERVOMOTOR 1 FT3101 N
Nº F487 2081 02 001
4.71 KW 81.0V 21A 3000 /MIN
ANG 0269225451 HALTEBREMSE EBD 1.5MN


AC SERVOMOTOR ########
==========================
Nr.E 95-1B-##24
1.86 KW 133.5 V 8.5A #### /min
A-Nr 0863221460

AC SERVOMOTOR K3/5CC-###
No.E 95-1A-1223
1.88 KW 133.5 V 8.3 A
A.Nr 0269225460

================================

CABINET RC 30/52
Nº 30195.081.0
YEAR 1995
VOLTAGE 3X400V 50HZ
CURRENT 6.5 A
DRAWING NR 392.301 (a)
FUSE 16A
WEIGHT 250KG

Boards into the cabinet

NMC20
SN 950400056
ART Nr 69-334-294

PSC15/45
SN 950400198
ART Nr 69-327-439

PSC15/45
SN 950400187
ART Nr 69-327-439

PSC4/20-2/8
SN 950400056
ART Nr 69-327-438

PSC2/8-2/8
SN 950400073
ART Nr 69-327-437

FE001/1
SN 950400261
ART Nr 69-223-650

FE001/2
SN 950300260
ART Nr 69-223-652

[RAS-Skordos GR]

Thank you for the feedback jens

Let me look to it and I'll get back to you with more info

[RAS-Skordos GR]

Hello jens,

here's the feedback....

The controller RC30/52, with the details that you posted and as I can see it in the pics you attached, can only be used with an IR 363/6 or an IR364/10/15. In fact, I can see one in the background of one of your photos. If you search in this lot, you may be able to locate those arms.
Regarding the other arm types that you mentioned, yes, you need a different type controller. You may also find them somewhere in there. If you give me their S/Ns and Part No.s, I can tell you which match which.
If you worry about parts and/or support, don't.
Regarding the quality of these machines, I can tell you that although sometimes they get stubborn, they are honest workers. I have 11 of them RC30/51s installed, all working like a charm.

Best regards

[jens]

Hi there,

Thanks a lot for the answer.

I'll have a look to the other machines then. I´ll let you know... I do not now how long will it take.. depends on the people working there.

So, for the old IR720 I understand that could be worth getting a RC 30/51 cabinet.

Just a more question... and I guess that the answer is : NO.
In case that finding a RC 30/51 was difficult would it be possible to use a more recent controller to drive it?

Thanks a lot again

[RAS-Skordos GR]

Hello jens

connecting an old robot to a newer controller, is not impossible. I do things like that all the time. This is not a definite YES though. :-) There are limitations.

However, lets not get carried away yet. Lets make the first step...
If you can give me all the S/Ns and all the Part No.s from the arms and the controllers you can find in this lot, I will be able to tell you if there are any pairs in there.

Best regards

[jens]

Hi there,

Finally I have had access to the other lot. There are 2 smaller Kukas. They look alike but the ID plate of one of them is completely erased... maybe because somebody tried to clean the dirt comming from a foundry... quite sticky.

Well, lets go to the point:
The ID plate from the other one reads:

Type: IR 364/15.0
SN 73516
Year 1995
Drawing Nº 391.810
Weight 270

I guess that This twin kukas belong to the twin RC 30/52 cabinets.

Thanks a lot.

[RAS-Skordos GR]

That is correct, yes.


Best regards