saving robot data using only kcwin

[sulcy003]

Hi

I am trying to retrieve all the data from a FS20 robot.  The robot brings up a keyboard screen after it is switched on along with RETURN, BS, CTRL, SHIFT and another Japanese word symbol.  There is a blue strip above the keyboard where numbers I enter show up, with only one number showing as the next takes its spot with a total of five numbers able to be entered and this can repeat after the return key is hit.  I believe this is a password to prevent access to the teach pendant menus.

The issue I have is that I need to access and/or save all the robot data to a floppy or PC so I can compare this data to another machine (see my previous post).  My questions are whether or not I can bypass the password to access the data? Alternatively can I extract the data using kcwin by connecting through rs232 whilst the robot controller is on and the teach penant showing the password/keyboard screen? Or am I stuffed? Thanks in advance!

Cheers Chris

[roboperson]

It sounds as if you have lost your volitle memory. Has this robot been sitting for a long period of time powered off or were you turning off the main disconnect for long periods of time? If so, then the batteries more than likely drained, and you lost your data. The battery back up kicks in whenever you take 480 off of the robot. So, if you turned off the controller at the main disconnect over night to save on power, then the batteries take over to save the memory. Over a period of time, the batteries drain and need to be replaced.
There is no "drip" or recharge to the batteries.
You could try powering up the controller and using KCwin to try and retrieve the memory, but I would bet that it is gone. The only way you will probably get past the keyboard screen is to initialize it, at which point you would lose the memory anyhow, but like I said, it probably isnt there.
Best of luck

[floppyemulator]

Hello,

This is a good device to replace the old floppy drives on Robot controllers. Then you can use SD memories !
Is tested on ABB M2000 and Kuka KRC1 robot controllers.

www.floppyemulator.com

Ariel/

[James]

http://www.robot-forum.com/robotforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3316.0;attach=1228

This is or should be the AS Language Reference Manual. Look for the chapter about "program storage commands".

This will tell you how to save data from the robot to a PC via RS232. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like you can save "All Data"
only individual types of data (programs, real, string, etc...).

[James]

Actually, on reflection, you could try the command "save backup.as" (without quotes)

[t2o]

From the KCWIN screen type [sa yourfilename]

This will save the entire robot,sys,aux,interface, and programs in the default directory of your kcwin.

Type [alt & s] or maybe [ctrl & S]  from the kcwin screen to set the default directory

I am pretty sure you can even type [sa c:\yourfolder\yourfilename] to point the save command to a specific folder.

[t2o]

Oh yea if the robot is running the programs but you have this funky TP screen then you will need to reload the tp software.  I can go through this with you, I have done it 100 times or more, but you will need to have the software on hand.

[sulcy003]

Hi

Thanks for all the replies.  I have connected the robot controller to a laptop and run KCWin.  I can press connect and the I think the computer is connected to the controller, however I cannot type anything in the window.  Does anyone have any instructions for KCWin?  I have tried this on a different robot which is operational, however I still can't type in the KCWin window, even with AUX 95 Environment Data 2 Terminal set to Connected (C controller).

Cheers Chris

[tony gast]

press "enter" first thing after getting connected....

">" must be displayed before any typing can be done....

I had issue about two weeks ago, every thing looked good but I could not talk to the controller....

I was using a usb serial adapter the was not working correctly and I had to re-install the drivers

[sulcy003]

I have just tried this however it did not work.  I beleive that it is connecting as the "com" tab displays connected but I still can't type anything in.  I have now tried using KC win on three different laptops one using windows XP the others using Windows 7, however can't do anything with it.  Is it possible that I have a corrupted version  of KC Win?  Here is a screen shot of what I get from the program once connected.

Thanks for the replies,

Chris
 

[James]

Type "status" (without quotes) and press enter.

If you still get nothing, check to see which COM port kcwin is trying to use and make sure your usb-rs232 adaptor is using that port.

[selquist]

Are you sure that your RS232-cable is correct?

[tony gast]

The window shows com 7 is active
Do you have a null modem serial cable?
If you do.....check the set up of your usb adapter.....I had to remove from my system and re-install to get it to work......

[sulcy003]

Hi all,

I now have a Null modem cable which I have used to try and communicate with the robot.  However my woes continue as I have not been able to type anything into kcwin.  I tried saving all data to floppy through an auxillary function whilst I had the computer connected to the robot just to see what would happen.  This brough up some errors on both the robot controller and kcwin.  They wre 506,507,508 communication error (remote terminal).  This showed that there is at least some sort of communication occurring between the controller and kcwin. A screen shot of the error is attached.

I thought that perhaps the usb to serial port adapter that I was using could be causing the problems.  Hence I found an old laptop with serial port and tried again with no success.  I am not sure why I can't type anything into KCwin, any help would be greaty appreciated.

Cheers Chris

[tdevine77]

There are 2 versions of KCWIN: KCWIN and KCWIN32, Try the KCWIN32 or vice versa according to what version of windows you are using.