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« on: April 09, 2008, 04:52:10 PM »

Wondering what your thoughts are regarding the future of manufacturing and automation, especially robotics, in the "Industrialised" countries.
Canada seems to be steadily going the way of service industry only, having lost a lot of manufacturing capacity to the emerging markets.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 07:59:38 PM »

When I think about current trends in robotics/automation, we can observe growing interest focused on Central Europe. Key players like Fanuc, ABB or Kuka are opening their branches aiming to get fair share of the market. The labour cost increased so there is growing interest in the field of robotics.

Another aspect is increased usage of new technologies there. Before common scenario was that whole production or assembly line was moved from other country to Central Europe. That was 'second life' of those lines. Now there are more and more new investments involving newest technology. However there are still situations when big corporations sell second hand, used equipment to their branches located in new UE countries for prices sometimes higher than new stuff. Corporate politics 

 
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 02:44:45 PM »

Early adoption of emerging, and innovative use of already available, technology. In Canada, the human factor is a great one, and I think the more we can remove ourselves from processes, the more we can compete with a leading edge.
I'm not so familiar with the workforce right now, and how hard it is to find technically capable people in manufacturing - but coming out of the Canadian educational system, I found there wasn't much of a push towards gearing up young people to pursue jobs and excel in the manufacturing industry.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 08:58:36 PM »

Canada has the biggest demand in the world for skilled workers.  Welders are making over $100,000.  They are on a slippery slope now.  As soon as you rely on someone else you lose sight of self reliance and to get it back is costly.   Fish
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2008, 02:21:10 AM »

Hello, TylerRobertson,
It is really nice to see you posts here. I would like to talk about the topic very much. As a 1 year graduate (automation and robotics program) college student in Canada, I was one of few people involved in manufacturing, actually troubleshooting on the floor for the production, you know why my classmates hate to do this job in Canada? when I first started as a automation and robotics technician in the production enviroment company, no training, no orientation, no anything to tell you, 2 weeks later, they put me right away in the midnight shift, and work alone, you know what happened after 4 months. Tell you the truth, I don't even know some spare parts stock yet.
And the  senior guy in some company gave the new guy shit when they started, so, some graduates got frustrated, stressful, and later on, they are tired of the job. also, the production team keep dealing with the new technician in Canada(at least in Toronto), lots of young technician got killed when they started their career, you know what, in the past 1 year, horribly, I changed 4 jobs, only 1 job, yeah, only 1, I resigned for the better one, the rest of the 2, I just couldn't continue, so many nightmare stuff happened to me. When we started, we got less pay, but the company management do not care about it, you let the machine down longer, you got fired, so many similiar cases happened in the manufacturing field, last month, my manager was fired due too much downtime, sigh!
Early adoption of emerging, and innovative use of already available, technology. In Canada, the human factor is a great one, and I think the more we can remove ourselves from processes, the more we can compete with a leading edge.
I'm not so familiar with the workforce right now, and how hard it is to find technically capable people in manufacturing - but coming out of the Canadian educational system, I found there wasn't much of a push towards gearing up young people to pursue jobs and excel in the manufacturing industry.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 03:05:25 PM »

yikes.  that's scary.  the only advice i have is to start on automation early early early.  don't wait until you need it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2008, 04:12:43 PM »

Scary indeed - production environments can be foreboding places
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